Before You Found a New Sorority

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Kaorin_Kanoe

Maaaaaaan, get your dumbass video outta here!

1) My sorority had been local years before they picked KBG. And don't bring my other sisters into this because like I said from the beginning, I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW! I mean, Phi Mu came to our school last year with the intention of colonizing. But we're still here as KBG so we're not using anyone.

2) You're making up things that aren't even there. What organization is going to colonize with my sisters just because one person wants it? You probably come from some sorority with like 150 girls in your cutesy sorority house and Barbie dream cars. Bitch, outta my face. I work hard for my girls and I want them to have what rightly belongs to them. People who are already sitting under the big beach umbrella that is NPC wouldn't understand. Isn't your job as a moderator to make sure that I get my questions answered? All I wanted was a simple question answered. So thanks for nothing, Rude Ass Bitch.

There are so many ROFLWAFFLES in this post I don't even know where to begin.

My job as a moderator is to moderate specific forums...not to help you find a way to dump your sorority for something brighter and shinier.

Phi Mu was going to colonize with another local sorority. It had NOTHING to do with your local or KBG.

"What rightly belongs to them"? What the heck does that mean?

I'm sorry you have issues with girls wanting an NPC, but for lack of a better way to put it...you (your sisters who chose to colonize with KBG you) made your bed, so lie in it. Perhaps they should have done a little more research and held out for an NPC group. That doesn't mean it's cool to dump KBG though. It's not. They are a national sorority even if they're not NPC. (You might want to ask the school to take that little asterisk off the website...it's blatantly discriminatory).

You are TOTALLY right about the Barbie dream cars and giant gorgeous house though!!! Now it's time for me to go tan and then figure out which Prada purse to carry tomorrow.

[tosfadKBG]

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[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Kaorin_Kanoe

I work hard for my girls and I want them to have what rightly belongs to them. People who are already sitting under the big beach umbrella that is NPC wouldn't understand.

Ahem. If I may interject... I'm in a small, national sorority whose chapters range from around 2-10 members each. If you don't want to be a member of your organization anymore, don't be. But, don't "blame" your organization's non-NPC status for your lack of interest.

If a woman wants to join an NPC organization, then she probably shouldn't look into your sorority and end up disappointed. If you aren't finding interested women, it's because you're not looking hard enough, representing your organization proudly enough, and/or personally connecting with women who might be interested.

Based on your attitude, I wouldn't want to be your sister.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Ahem. If I may interject...

Based on your attitude, I wouldn't want to be your sister.

Aw, c'mon Jeni - who wouldn't want a heapin' helping of THAT?

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Ahem. If I may interject... I'm in a small, national sorority whose chapters range from around 2-10 members each. If you don't want to be a member of your organization anymore, don't be. But, don't "blame" your organization's non-NPC status for your lack of interest.

If a woman wants to join an NPC organization, then she probably shouldn't look into your sorority and end up disappointed. If you aren't finding interested women, it's because you're not looking hard enough, representing your organization proudly enough, and/or personally connecting with women who might be interested.

Based on your attitude, I wouldn't want to be your sister.

Should I cry that you don't want to be my sister. Trust me, the feeling is mutual. I'm tired of people asking me that if I wanted to be NPC then why did I colonize with KBG. I. AM. NOT. A. FOUNDING. SISTER. And you have some nerve saying that we're not looking hard enough. You don't know what goes on on my campus that prohibits from getting the results that we would like. My sister wear our letters everyday even though we're blatantly outnumbered. I don't think you know what it's like to have people say to your face that they're pledging Delta or Alpha before they're even eligible to apply to greek life. Excuse me if I've been sounding like a total monster on GC, but it's painful to hear people say that they won't join us strictly because we're not NPC. We're in the middle of a catch 22. They say we're too small but then people won't join us. As of right now I have 13 and as of next year there will be 5 of us left. The other sororities are just begging that we get kicked off campus because so that they can satisfy their quota. The shallow reasons that people DO give for joining an NPC is hysterical. If I join I get a free Tiffany's necklace. If I join I get to wear their letters. If I join I get a free credit card (I kid you not) But nope...nobody wants any sisterhood...just a new pair of diamond earrings. So come on. Let me have it. Shame on me for reaching out for a little help from the Greek community.

[AOEforme]

Originally Posted by Kaorin_Kanoe

Should I cry that you don't want to be my sister. Trust me, the feeling is mutual. I'm tired of people asking me that if I wanted to be NPC then why did I colonize with KBG. I. AM. NOT. A. FOUNDING. SISTER. And you have some nerve saying that we're not looking hard enough. You don't know what goes on on my campus that prohibits from getting the results that we would like. My sister wear our letters everyday even though we're blatantly outnumbered. I don't think you know what it's like to have people say to your face that they're pledging Delta or Alpha before they're even eligible to apply to greek life. Excuse me if I've been sounding like a total monster on GC, but it's painful to hear people say that they won't join us strictly because we're not NPC. We're in the middle of a catch 22. They say we're too small but then people won't join us. As of right now I have 13 and as of next year there will be 5 of us left. The other sororities are just begging that we get kicked off campus because so that they can satisfy their quota. The shallow reasons that people DO give for joining an NPC is hysterical. If I join I get a free Tiffany's necklace. If I join I get to wear their letters. If I join I get a free credit card (I kid you not) But nope...nobody wants any sisterhood...just a new pair of diamond earrings. So come on. Let me have it. Shame on me for reaching out for a little help from the Greek community.

I, for the record, am also in a national non-NPC.

1. We understand you are not a founding sister. Why I don't get is why you joined KBG when you could have joined a NPC, if you wanted that. Why did you join if NPC is what you want?

2. Yes, NPC women DO know what it's like to have someone tell them that "Oh, I'm not joining your sorority. I'm going to be in Delta or Alpha, not in yours". It happens constantly.

3. Seriously? A free credit card? Maybe I'm missing something, but I seriously doubt that has a shred of truth to it.


I really think that your chapter is recruiting wrong. My national, non-NPC chapter does two phases of recruitment: (1) a modified formal, with PHA and (2) informal.

The girls we bring in through formal recruitment join because we fit their ideal chapter, either via sisterhood or the programming. The girls who join through informal join because we are not a traditional NPC organization. We are smaller, with professional programing based in the sciences and engineering.

If you are marketing yourself as a "knock-off" NPC, it is no shock you are having membership problems. You need to demonstrate what you have in common with your Panhellenic Sisters, but also what makes you different.

Once our chapter started operating in that way, we haven't had an issue with numbers. We are at a lower total than the NPCs on campus, but it's one we have set and we maintain every year. We cut women regularly, rather than allowing anyone to join (which is another HUGE mistake some small groups make. Quantity is NEVER equal to quality). We have made well above our desired quota every year.

It's not that being in an NPC gives you a magical house with Tiffany's bracelets and free credit cards. It's that they have many things to offer and they are marketing it as such. Your chapter is currently not.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Kaorin_Kanoe

We're in the middle of a catch 22. They say we're too small but then people won't join us. As of right now I have 13 and as of next year there will be 5 of us left. The other sororities are just begging that we get kicked off campus because so that they can satisfy their quota.

This isn't how rush works. Quota = number of women rushing divided by number of sororities. Total = maximum number of women that can be in a chapter. If groups can't fill quota, the number is probably being set too soon during formal rush. If groups can't get to total and are constantly open bidding, then total is too high.

You are an associate member of your school's CPC so I'm guessing you don't have to worry about any of that crap.

Unless you fall under a minimum amount for student organizations IN GENERAL, you can't get "kicked off" for numbers alone - at least I have never heard of such a thing. When sorority chapters get pulled for numbers, it's their national headquarters that does it, NOT the school. The most I've ever heard of a school doing is removing a group from on campus housing because they don't have enough members to fill it. And as you know, not having a house does not equal not having a chapter.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Kaorin_Kanoe

You probably come from some sorority with like 150 girls in your cutesy sorority house and Barbie dream cars. Bitch, outta my face.

Ironically, this is what you think of NPCs, and yet you want to be in one.

Hm...

And while I don't know 33girl personally, when I think of her, the last thing I picture is a cutsey sorority house and Barbie dream car.

I imagine her driving the Batmobile.

People who are already sitting under the big beach umbrella that is NPC wouldn't understand.

I DO like the idea of being under a big beach umbrella all the time

[33girl]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

And while I don't know 33girl personally, when I think of her, the last thing I picture is a cutsey sorority house and Barbie dream car.

Oh please hooker. I KNOW you are the one who borrowed my olive green Jimmy Choos (the ones with the gold ring, not the ones with the ankle strap) and never gave them back. Don't even try to kiss up to me.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Oh please hooker. I KNOW you are the one who borrowed my olive green Jimmy Choos (the ones with the gold ring, not the ones with the ankle strap) and never gave them back. Don't even try to kiss up to me.

Bish stole my favorite MAC lipstick, too.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kaorin_Kanoe

Maaaaaaan, get your dumbass video outta here!

So thanks for nothing, Rude Ass Bitch.

I have no idea what this back and forth is about but I love this communication style. LOL.

No offense to 33girl. Xoxo, your fellow R.A.B.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by Kaorin_Kanoe

. I work hard for my girls and I want them to have what rightly belongs to them. People who are already sitting under the big beach umbrella that is NPC wouldn't understand.

What does one mean by "what rightly belongs to them?"

Anyway, sorry I'm late to this one guys.

I was out sipping my mimosa under my big beach umbrella on the island of I'm In An NPC Sorority and You're Not.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Oh please hooker. I KNOW you are the one who borrowed my olive green Jimmy Choos (the ones with the gold ring, not the ones with the ankle strap) and never gave them back. Don't even try to kiss up to me.

Oh, so you think us ASTs will steal ANYTHING that’s green and gold? Look, I may be a hooker, but I get paaaaaaid! I don’t need to be stealin’ yo Choos. I make it rain.. like the forest.. bitch.

Originally Posted by agzg

Bish stole my favorite MAC lipstick, too.

For the last time, no one stole your damn lipstick! You kiss 33girl’s ass so much, that’s probably the only place you’ve stopped to look for it.

[thetaj]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Oh, so you think us ASTs will steal ANYTHING that’s green and gold? Look, I may be a hooker, but I get paaaaaaid! I don’t need to be stealin’ yo Choos. I make it rain.. like the forest.. bitch.

I lolled

[als463]

Originally Posted by Kaorin_Kanoe

Maaaaaaan, get your dumbass video outta here!

1) My sorority had been local years before they picked KBG. And don't bring my other sisters into this because like I said from the beginning, I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW! I mean, Phi Mu came to our school last year with the intention of colonizing. But we're still here as KBG so we're not using anyone.

2) You're making up things that aren't even there. What organization is going to colonize with my sisters just because one person wants it? You probably come from some sorority with like 150 girls in your cutesy sorority house and Barbie dream cars. Bitch, outta my face. I work hard for my girls and I want them to have what rightly belongs to them. People who are already sitting under the big beach umbrella that is NPC wouldn't understand. Isn't your job as a moderator to make sure that I get my questions answered? All I wanted was a simple question answered. So thanks for nothing, Rude Ass Bitch.

And as I recall, the ladies of the local didn't exactly exemplify the high ideals that are expected of Phi Mus. If one of the 26 NPCs came to your campus (Phi Mu) only to be disappointed by the way in which many of those women acted, why would any other NPC want a liability like that? Ask yourself that!