Is making a pledge sing hazing?

[alexandra92]

I feel that hazing rules have gotten out of line. We have to sing for RA training, but that's not considered hazing, but I'm sure if we had to do it could be considered hazing.

[OneHeartOneWay]

Originally Posted by alexandra92

I feel that hazing rules have gotten out of line. We have to sing for RA training, but that's not considered hazing, but I'm sure if we had to do it could be considered hazing.

Actually, it is hazing, but RAs aren't under the microscope the way Greeks are. Many campus groups participate in hazing (sports teams are a common non-Greek example), but most don't have to "answer" to headquarters or insurance companies the way Greek organizations do.

Still doesn't mean Greeks should whine "everyone else gets to do it, though..." Not saying this is what you're implying, but none the less, I'm fine with GLOs holding ourselves to a higher standard- I have no problem with it.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by OneHeartOneWay

Actually, it is hazing, but RAs aren't under the microscope the way Greeks are.

Depending on how hazing is defined and whether you're looking at a legal definition (of which there are many) or a policy definition (of which there are many), maybe so, maybe not. Given that RAs are not a club or organization, I don't think it would fit under most definitions of hazing with which I'm familiar.

Blanket statements about what is or isn't hazing can rarely be made with accuracy, except with the obvious examples of physical hazing.