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05-01-2011, 11:49 PM
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Didn't Rutgers just add Phi Sigma Sigma? Would a school be open for expansion again that quickly?
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05-01-2011, 11:59 PM
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Didn't Rutgers just add Phi Sigma Sigma? Would a school be open for expansion again that quickly?
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Not usually. There are some situations where a school will choose 2 sororities and have one colonize one year and one the next. However, I believe Rutgers only added one (Phi Sigma Sigma.) I doubt they'll be opening again for a few years.
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05-01-2011, 11:59 PM
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And while you're at it, be sure to tell your fellow Rutgers Greeks that there are only 7 sororities at Rutgers. Greek Unity and all.
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Get off your high horse, I made a mistake. Happy sorry to disrespect any other organization. Now get over it
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Didn't Rutgers just add Phi Sigma Sigma? Would a school be open for expansion again that quickly?
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I think they would be, especially since Phi Sigma Sigma took over the Sig Ep House last year and Sig ep's have kind of died off ever since. It seems to be that fraternities around here can not survive too well without a house. I mean technically they are still around, their numbers are very low. There are many more factors to this but in the end my main point is greek life is slowly dieing here at Rutgers and what better way to revitalize it than to bring a NPC organization. Those are the ones that typically get publicized the most, and catch the interest of non greeks to join greek life.
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05-02-2011, 12:00 AM
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Get off your high horse, I made a mistake. Happy sorry to disrespect any other organization. Now get over it
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You finally admitted that you made a mistake. Congratulations. Now fuck off.
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05-02-2011, 12:01 AM
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Get off your high horse, I made a mistake. Happy sorry to disrespect any other organization. Now get over it
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Or you could just have admitted your mistake without copping an attitude.
But that's cool, tell the person who pointed out your mistake they're handling it wrong. You showed them! Darn angry "specific groups" always demanding to be recognized.
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I think they would be, especially since Phi Sigma Sigma took over the Sig Ep House last year and Sig ep's have kind of died off ever since. It seems to be that fraternities around here can not survive too well without a house. I mean technically they are still around, their numbers are very low. There are many more factors to this but in the end my main point is greek life is slowly dieing here at Rutgers and what better way to revitalize it than to bring a NPC organization. Those are the ones that typically get publicized the most, and catch the interest of non greeks to join greek life.
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That is not how NPC expansion works.
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05-02-2011, 12:05 AM
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That is not how NPC expansion works.
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Please explain
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05-02-2011, 03:46 PM
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Please explain
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The college Panhellenic Council follows the procedures outlined in the NPC Manual of Information, commonly known as the Green Book. They do some research on recruitment numbers and membership numbers and then talk with their NPC Area Adviser and the individual NPC groups' NPC Delegate and other national officers. Then they vote on whether or not to expand. Once the vote has been approved, the college PH notifies NPC that the campus is open for expansion. NPC advises the groups not currently on that campus that it is open for expansion. THose groups then decide if they want to send an information packet to the college. Once the deadline for packets has passed, the college PH picks the groups they want to invite to present. After all the presentations are done the college PH votes which one to extend a bid to.
As you can see, it's a very complicated and proscribed process. One doesn't just add a group. You might talk with the Greek Adviser and ask if they are looking into expansion and why/why not for an answer specific to your campus.
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05-02-2011, 04:22 PM
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I don't think we should jump on this poor guy because he asked a question. Ghettobacon, it really is a matter of being voted on by Panhellenic. DrPhil, you raise a good point that sorority should not be the same as "NPC" but, sadly-that's how some people look at it. We (Greeks in general) need to change that kind of thinking. We need more unity-building types of activities.
Ghettobacon, you should consider talking to any of your friends in Panhellenic. I can understand why a guy in a fraternity (which I assume falls under the IFC on his campus) would want more sororities for social functions. That makes sense. Hopefully, if sororities are bursting at the seams at Rutgers, there can be an expansion. Talk to some of your friends about the possibility but, there is really nothing YOU or I can do about it. It has to be voted on to even consider allowing other NPC sororities on campus. I hope that helps!
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05-02-2011, 07:12 PM
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I don't think we should jump on this poor guy because he asked a question.
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People are responding to him. He could've taken this question straight to Greek Life and not had to worry about GC responses at all.
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DrPhil, you raise a good point that sorority should not be the same as "NPC" but, sadly-that's how some people look at it. We (Greeks in general) need to change that kind of thinking. We need more unity-building types of activities.
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Uh huh. In the meantime, for the next 100 years of my life, I will respond as I have for the past 16 years of my life.
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05-02-2011, 11:31 AM
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I think they would be, especially since Phi Sigma Sigma took over the Sig Ep House last year and Sig ep's have kind of died off ever since. It seems to be that fraternities around here can not survive too well without a house. I mean technically they are still around, their numbers are very low. There are many more factors to this but in the end my main point is greek life is slowly dieing here at Rutgers and what better way to revitalize it than to bring a NPC organization. Those are the ones that typically get publicized the most, and catch the interest of non greeks to join greek life.
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OK, not counting the NALFO/NPHC groups, there are 26 fraternities. If some of those are very low in members, then having 7 sororities is probably just right.
Sororities use quota and total to (try to) make them all the same size. Fraternities don't do that however. You can have one with 100 members and one with 15 members on the same campus, and they can both be perfectly healthy.
What campuses strive for is parity of number of members between IFC & NPC...in other words, you want to try and have (example) 300 fraternity members and 300 sorority members. Typically the way those numbers are distributed is going to lean toward fewer sororities than fraternities.
It sounds more like the fraternities need to get their shit together and stop playing musical houses. This happened at my campus and it just made things a mess. Also, sororities do not want to colonize on a campus where the fraternities are unhealthy.
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