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04-27-2011, 02:56 PM
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Besides, Trump's former positions have been Pro-Choice and being pro-universal healthcare. Now, all of a sudden, he's a conservative?
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While I agree that there's a good chance all of this is for publicity, this part isn't a big problem given enough "oomph" behind the candidate - most have issues like this.
Hell, McCain had similar problems last cycle.
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04-27-2011, 03:02 PM
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While I agree that there's a good chance all of this is for publicity, this part isn't a big problem given enough "oomph" behind the candidate - most have issues like this.
Hell, McCain had similar problems last cycle.
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Nothing new. I feel that a lot of politicians "find Jesus" while on the campaign trail. Didn't Obama's stance on gay marriage and abortion change as well around 2007?
ETA- By finding Jesus I mean adjusting their views to be more inline with or palatable to their political party or the American public.
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04-27-2011, 06:34 PM
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Obama showed his birth certificate today. Kate and William get married in 2 days. What useless event will be covered on Saturday since nothing important like wars, earthquakes, storms, financial crisises are taking place.
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04-27-2011, 06:43 PM
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Obama showed his birth certificate today. Kate and William get married in 2 days. What useless event will be covered on Saturday since nothing important like wars, earthquakes, storms, financial crisises are taking place.
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04-27-2011, 09:56 PM
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My own issue with the President's birth certificate was that the one he had originally released would not have been valid for most lineage societies. I haven't yet seen it, so I won't comment further on it.
The Donald. My own feeling is that he is there to bluster for the GOP, until they can find a viable candidate. Right now, no one candidate stands out - I even got a call from a Newt Gingrich for President committee the other night!  |
I'm confused, what would a lineage society require? What wasn't on it? And considering the newly released doc is essentially identical to the previous version in included information, why would the new document be better?
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04-27-2011, 10:23 PM
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Obama showed his birth certificate today. Kate and William get married in 2 days. What useless event will be covered on Saturday since nothing important like wars, earthquakes, storms, financial crisises are taking place.
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Amen Sister.
This entire thing just makes me want to hit my head on a desk.
As for Trump and the rest... well it should be interesting to see where it all goes.
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04-27-2011, 11:10 PM
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In the "olden days", a baptismal certificate (in some places) was considered on par with a birth certificate. This would have been even better if it was a baptismal certificate pretty much filled out in pencil on a random scrap of paper by ,by the presiding priest or whatever.... 
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04-27-2011, 11:20 PM
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In the "olden days", a baptismal certificate (in some places) was considered on par with a birth certificate. This would have been even better if it was a baptismal certificate pretty much filled out in pencil on a random scrap of paper by ,by the presiding priest or whatever.... |
That's what Arizona was trying to include as valid identification of birth, baptismal and circumcision records as well as official ones. As you point out, there's little proof there.
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04-28-2011, 11:08 AM
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From what I understand, his college performance was sub-par to say the least.
He allegedly makes George Bush look like a genius.
Edit: And there are few things about Trump that are conservative.
Paul/Johnson '12!
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04-28-2011, 11:15 AM
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Edit: And there are few things about Trump that are conservative.
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I concur. Trump is just jumping on this bandwagon to get attention. I'm sure his political opinions are as flimsy as his toupee.
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04-28-2011, 05:31 PM
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From what I understand, his college performance was sub-par to say the least.
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Ah, so he got the "Subpar Student Scholarship" to Harvard Law?
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04-28-2011, 07:49 PM
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Ah, so he got the "Subpar Student Scholarship" to Harvard Law?
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And he got Editor of Harvard Law Review the same way!
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04-28-2011, 07:59 PM
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It's all a conspiracy I tell ya! But I'm no more offended by someone getting a leg up for their race or sex than for who their daddy is... 
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04-28-2011, 08:08 PM
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From what I understand, his college performance was sub-par to say the least.
He allegedly makes George Bush look like a genius.
Edit: And there are few things about Trump that are conservative.
Paul/Johnson '12!
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Hey, when are you going to address the allegations that you're a perp? Perp.
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And he got Editor of Harvard Law Review the same way!
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See, I don't know anyone who says "you don't like the healthcare law because you're racist" as PIKA claims. I'm sure it happened somewhere to someone, but the automatic response to this question by people on sites like freerepublic and Limbaugh's site is: "Affirmative Action." That is racism.
And because mainstream politicians, until lately, have subtly encouraged the birthers by saying things like "Well I believe he was born here, but other people don't and I'm not going to tell them what to think." (Speaker of the House) and in the process, encouraged the racist elements at the same time.
Honestly Trump's craziness has made the Bachmann's of the world back off the birth certificate thing to some extent even prior to this release. I almost wonder if he set this whole thing up to force the GOP to draw a line and say "this crazy, no further."
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04-29-2011, 03:19 AM
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Ah, so he got the "Subpar Student Scholarship" to Harvard Law?
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I wish I was born into my scholarship.
Of course he attended Columbia after attending the ever prestigious Occidental College. What I mentioned above is why people want to know his college transcripts. Given his intelligence level, he was likely accepted due to the same reasons George Bush was accepted...birthright. In George's case, the correct family. In Obama's case, the correct race (or half-race or whatever).
Accusations are going to arise similar to this as long as Affirmative-Action exists. It's one of the many flaws with the theory.
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Hey, when are you going to address the allegations that you're a perp? Perp.
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I don't address obsessions. They tend to make people more obsessive.
On a thread related topic, I don't understand the birthers claim. I mean, I get the idea of it, but why not just simply say "he is one of the worst Presidents of the last fifty years" and state the reasoning instead of hiding behind specious claims about birthright.
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