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Originally Posted by DTD Alum
I could not disagree more. There are some people who pursue a particular GLO no matter what umbrella organization purely because of race, that's obvious. However, if you want a specific type of experience often times only one type of group can provide it. If he wants to live in a large house and throw big parties with enormous sets and hang out with sorority girls all days (the way he has likely seen it in the movies and TV), then of course he doesn't want to be in an ethnic GLO because they don't provide that experience. I can't think of one that does, and even if there are some they are obviously extremely rare. For example, despite Greek letters and some similarities, an NPHC GLO is going to vastly differ from an IFC fraternity (yes I know there is some overlap with some fraternities) the most deeply rooted organizational structural/cultural aspects (the increased focus on community service, the heightened sense of membership lasting your entire life, membership intake vs. rush) to the most superficial (step shows, probates, line numbers and jackets). That is enough to eliminate that type of GLO from some people's minds even before race becomes a part of it.
To say that just because of the correlation between race and GLOs (which I understand the historical and social reasons for completely) that somebody who is looking at just one type of GLO is doing it for racial reasons is very assumptive and not exactly fair.
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Dude, may be ignorant and not up to date on American ethnic history, that's fine. But he emphasized that he himself was white in the OP, and didn't want to join a "latino only" frat or a "foreigner frat" but a "stereotypical" frat. To pretend that race isn't at least something of an issue here is silly, particularly since he equated "African American" with "Non-American" considering AA is pretty exclusive to the US. He didn't want a group with "non-americans." Yeah we know what he's looking for, it's obvious.
No one's said that it was inappropriate for him to look for that type of fraternity. None. He was rather gently mocked for his missteps, and informed that we couldn't tell him jack shit about what some random GLO on some random campus would think of him.
Where precisely did he need defending? Or was it stated that it was inappropriate? And it's not that DrPhil or K_S need my help here, by any means, but where did you think it made sense to try and explain racial issues to them?
Also, the idea that for the majority of people, they look at the increased focus on service, or the stepping in NPHC orgs "before race becomes an issue" is laughable at best.