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Old 04-23-2011, 11:19 PM
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On the eyes of others, it might be an american college experience. Mostly based on, like this guy said, stereotypes.
We're aware of that, there's a reason why we're trying to correct his misconceptions rather than 'easing up.'
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Old 04-24-2011, 03:36 PM
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We're aware of that, there's a reason why we're trying to correct his misconceptions rather than 'easing up.'
Before you try to "correct" the misconceptions, you should probably figure out whether or not they are misconceptions.
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Old 04-24-2011, 03:37 PM
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Before you try to "correct" the misconceptions, you should probably figure out whether or not they are misconceptions.
So joining a non-IFC/NPC organization is 'taboo' and does not allow an individual to get a real college experience?

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Old 04-24-2011, 03:45 PM
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Before you try to "correct" the misconceptions, you should probably figure out whether or not they are misconceptions.
Yeah that ethnic minorities are non-Americans. Shoo perp, don't bother us.
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Old 04-24-2011, 03:49 PM
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Yeah that ethnic minorities are non-Americans. Shoo perp, don't bother us.
I don't know I said anything as such.
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Old 04-24-2011, 03:59 PM
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Not remotely what I said. I said that somebody who is saying "I don't want to join a multi-cultural/NPHC/service etc. GLO" doesn't necessarily mean they do not want to associate with that race. They may just want an experience that those GLOs can't offer.

Obviously somebody joining a GLO with a specific racial focus values that racial identity. But I often see people saying that by joining an IFC/Panhellenic GLO you are implicitly saying you want to associate yourself with white people since they are historically white. I disagree with this, since if you want to join a GLO with the stereotypical experience your only options likely are predominately white.

We had a couple members who strongly identified with their cultural/ethnic backgrounds first and foremost who still joined our fraternity because it offered something that GLOs targeted to their specific ethnicity/culture could not. For example, one member used our fraternity as his social outlet, and then used other organizations for his cultural outlet (both a cultural dance team and an assembly of students with similar backgrounds). Of course there are members who want to join an IFC fraternity so they can assimilate with "white" culture and leave their culture behind out of shame. But I'm just saying that by joining an IFC/Panhellenic GLO you are not automatically assimilating and rejecting your own cultural heritage. You may just be using different organizations for that purpose and want to experience a more stereotypical Greek experience.
Uh look, you can't divorce race out of the scenario. It doesn't mean that an individual has chosen to stop associating with X race but neither can you deny that race is a factor. No one here has said that the OP is rejecting his cultural heritage. But pretending that the majority aka "stereotypical" as you keep putting it, culture isn't white is silly. Minorities who join NPC orgs choose a culturally white experience AND they're not rejecting their heritage. It's not an either/or thing.

Also stop presuming "traditional" or even "stereotypical" = "white GLOs" here. I know it's a euphemism and it's probably the extent that someone like the OP understands the situation but you and I know better. Nothing is "untraditional" or "nonAmerican" about minority focused GLOs. And there are stereotypes about all types.
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I don't know I said anything as such.
Dear lord, at least put effort into it.
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