upperclassman quota

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Mevara

or to spread out the upperclassmen evenly?

This would only apply if the sororities were told they HAVE to take 3 sophs, 3 juniors etc. That cannot occur as it would be interfering with membership selection.

I mean if ABC really wants to take 50 juniors, 3 seniors and 2 freshmen without an upperclass quota, that's their prerogative.

[Mevara]

Originally Posted by 33girl

This would only apply if the sororities were told they HAVE to take 3 sophs, 3 juniors etc. That cannot occur as it would be interfering with membership selection.

I mean if ABC really wants to take 50 juniors, 3 seniors and 2 freshmen without an upperclass quota, that's their prerogative.

Yes, but I have seen the stronger recruiting chapters "monopolize" the freshmen. Leaving more of the soph/juniors/seniors for the other chapters.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Mevara

Yes, but I have seen the stronger recruiting chapters "monopolize" the freshmen. Leaving more of the soph/juniors/seniors for the other chapters.

And the stronger recruiting chapters probably also monopolize the cuter girls or the girls with higher GPAs. That's immaterial. You still can't tell a group that they HAVE to take people from a certain class.

You also have to factor in that if it's known that there's a UC quota, that probably some UCs who would not have bothered rushing will give it a try since they'll theoretically have a better chance to receive a bid.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

And the stronger recruiting chapters probably also monopolize the cuter girls or the girls with higher GPAs. That's immaterial. You still can't tell a group that they HAVE to take people from a certain class.

It's a big difference when it's class standing. Your other examples don't relate to retention in the same way.
Sure but you can tell people they can only take X people from freshman class and Y people from all other classes. It's pretty easy since schools do it ALL THE TIME. Having the UC quota does actually spread the students around a bit more, why are you acting like it would have to be a requirement to successfully do that? Do many chapters go "who cares if they're free, we won't sully our doorsteps with a junior!"

Originally Posted by 33girl

fyp

Fuck off. Slut-shaming is fail.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Sure but you can tell people they can only take X people from freshman class and Y people from all other classes. It's pretty easy since schools do it ALL THE TIME.

They do? Where? Can you provide a link?

Upperclassmen quotas in no way say "everyone else you take has to be a freshman." They just say "you can take 5 upperclassmen as freebies." Yes, maybe it ends up in practice that everyone in "regular" quota is a freshman, but that's far different than having it written down as policy.

A school can tell groups who they CANNOT take (non-students; students with a GPA lower than Panhel or the school requires for extracurricular involvement; part-time students; students with penii) but aside from whack ass Tufts, they certainly cannot dictate whom they MUST take among the students who meet the criteria.

If a chapter doesn't want to take upperclassmen, even if they're free, really, that is their own damn business.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Fuck off. Slut-shaming is fail.

Not doing it, just interpreting it. You do get that, right?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

They do? Where? Can you provide a link?

Upperclassmen quotas in no way say "everyone else you take has to be a freshman." They just say "you can take 5 upperclassmen as freebies." Yes, maybe it ends up in practice that everyone in "regular" quota is a freshman, but that's far different than having it written down as policy.

A school can tell groups who they CANNOT take (non-students; students with a GPA lower than Panhel or the school requires for extracurricular involvement; part-time students; students with penii) but aside from whack ass Tufts, they certainly cannot dictate whom they MUST take among the students who meet the criteria.

If a chapter doesn't want to take upperclassmen, even if they're free, really, that is their own damn business.

My point is that they do in fact spread out the class standing of students better. By saying you can only take up to X freshman (not all must be freshmen but they're the only freshmen you get.) and Y upper classmen you've actually lowered quota from X+Y to X. It's not a huge amount of redistribution, but it is some.

A mandate isn't required, few chapters will intentionally take less than quota, similarly few chapters will take less than UC Quota. The result is what I think Mevara was getting at, not the law.

Not doing it, just interpreting it. You do get that, right?

No, I didn't. It didn't come off that way and I didn't read our ~mysterious~ Greektrolly's post that way. Noted and I apologize, you may unfornicate... on... now. Or something.