Alpha Sigma Alpha colonizes at Capital!

[PhoenixAzul]

She didn't know if alum would be able to affiliate (AI) with ASA, nor did she care. She would not be doing anything of the sort. It kinda made me sad for her.

Why would that make you sad for her? Imagine if, in a far off universe, Theta was to be affiliated with another sorority. You would give up all of your letters, your badge, your symbols, your ritual, your history, your chapter traditions and anything Theta. All of those things that you held so dear as a collegian and as an alumna. That's where this woman is coming from. She didn't pledge and initiate into ASA. She didn't participate in ASA's rituals. She is from HER chapter.

My ritual vows included something along the lines of "lifelong love and fidelity to Tau Delta", and I'm pretty sure most of us said something along the same lines. And I can see where she would feel that turning her back on that would be an insult to the vows she took.

Please realize that I'm not against ASA, a colony is something to celebrate! Obviously the decision took a lot of time and agony, and there's a long road ahead. My comments are just to give some perspective from an alumna of an historic local.

Anyway...it's just Capital ;-p

KIDDING, JUST KIDDING! Otterbein and Capital are historic rivals. HUGE rivalry. I'm kidding!

[33girl]

Originally Posted by PhoenixAzul

Why would that make you sad for her? Imagine if, in a far off universe, Theta was to be affiliated with another sorority. You would give up all of your letters, your badge, your symbols, your ritual, your history, your chapter traditions and anything Theta. All of those things that you held so dear as a collegian and as an alumna. That's where this woman is coming from. She didn't pledge and initiate into ASA. She didn't participate in ASA's rituals. She is from HER chapter.

My ritual vows included something along the lines of "lifelong love and fidelity to Tau Delta", and I'm pretty sure most of us said something along the same lines. And I can see where she would feel that turning her back on that would be an insult to the vows she took.

It's not turning your back...it's more like if your dad gets remarried, it doesn't mean your mom isn't your mom anymore, you have a mom and a stepmom. You don't have to reject your stepmom to still love your mom.

I'm sure there will be lots of zebra print ASA letters...that's fine. I'm sure they will also continue to do some of the philanthropic events they did as Zeta Pi Lambda. ZPL's history - that automatically becomes part of the new ASA chapter's history, because if that local hadn't existed, that chapter of ASA wouldn't exist either. And our ritual doesn't include a brain-drain a la Men In Black where any remembrance of your previous ritual is completely eradicated.

Like I said, if women don't want to AI, that's perfectly fine and I completely understand, but it doesn't mean the ones who do are committing a betrayal, because the local is becoming part of something bigger. Unless, of course, there are enough sisters who don't affiliate and try to keep the local going, and that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

[IrishLake]

Originally Posted by PhoenixAzul

Why would that make you sad for her? Imagine if, in a far off universe, Theta was to be affiliated with another sorority. You would give up all of your letters, your badge, your symbols, your ritual, your history, your chapter traditions and anything Theta. All of those things that you held so dear as a collegian and as an alumna. That's where this woman is coming from. She didn't pledge and initiate into ASA. She didn't participate in ASA's rituals. She is from HER chapter.

My ritual vows included something along the lines of "lifelong love and fidelity to Tau Delta", and I'm pretty sure most of us said something along the same lines. And I can see where she would feel that turning her back on that would be an insult to the vows she took.

Please realize that I'm not against ASA, a colony is something to celebrate! Obviously the decision took a lot of time and agony, and there's a long road ahead. My comments are just to give some perspective from an alumna of an historic local.

Anyway...it's just Capital ;-p

KIDDING, JUST KIDDING! Otterbein and Capital are historic rivals. HUGE rivalry. I'm kidding!

Oh, I realize that. That's what I was saying. I'm sad for her, sad that they feel they are losing everything. I'd be devastated. I'm happy for the actives who are so excited about it, and sad for the alum who are so disappointed and heartbroken over it. Not "sad" over the fact that she'll choose not to affiliate if given the opportunity.

[PhoenixAzul]

Originally Posted by IrishLake

Oh, I realize that. That's what I was saying. I'm sad for her, sad that they feel they are losing everything. I'd be devastated. I'm happy for the actives who are so excited about it, and sad for the alum who are so disappointed and heartbroken over it. Not "sad" over the fact that she'll choose not to affiliate if given the opportunity.

Oof, I feel like a right ass. I'm sorry I took your comment the wrong way. Internet+too many hours at work this week + delirious from running too far= Phoenix is oversensitive.