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Old 04-15-2011, 06:29 PM
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Whether LGLOs and HLGLOs can collaborate under one council (NALFO or otherwise) is doubtful to me at the present time, because many in LGLOs don't know quite what to make of the new "HLGLOs"--are you still Latina/o orgs? Are you saying that your orgs were founded by Latinas/os but now you are focusing your programming elsewhere? Is your demographic no longer predominately Latina/o, so that a student seeking a brotherhood/sisterhood with members of his/her own culture might not find what they are looking for in your org?

In my view, organizations that are no longer predominately Latina/o, and no longer place their primary focus on serving the Latina/o community will not have much in common with LGLOs, and therefore, it would be problematic to have them under the same council with LGLOs. I would not feel comfortable with having an organization so dissimilar to mine voting on issues that impact my organization (i.e. GPA requirements, pledging requirements, etc.).
Lane swerve again...this reminds me a bit of the predominantly Jewish organizations that have opted to be under the NPC umbrella. I know that there have been some NPC issues on which SDT was the lone hold-out, and it trickled down to the campus level, in some cases. On the other hand, it has probably meant a lot of opportunity for SDT (and AEPhi/DPhiE), so I wouldn't go so far as to say different goals mean different councils.

Just some food for thought.
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:23 PM
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So we never got to the point of this thread...should an organization that no longer promotes themselves as latino or latina be allowed to stay in NALFO.

Also, what about the orgs that left? I doubt they will be allowed into NMGC so is a new council the best fit for organizations who were founded as Latino or Latina but now consider themselves multiculturals?
Just some thoughts people...

P.S. this is stupid but what would you call the council? slow work day...
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Old 04-19-2011, 03:11 PM
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So we never got to the point of this thread...should an organization that no longer promotes themselves as latino or latina be allowed to stay in NALFO.

Also, what about the orgs that left? I doubt they will be allowed into NMGC so is a new council the best fit for organizations who were founded as Latino or Latina but now consider themselves multiculturals?
Just some thoughts people...

P.S. this is stupid but what would you call the council? slow work day...
The NMGC appears to be pretty lax in terms of its definition of a multicultural Greek org. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, Gamma Eta is a member of the NMGC. Given that fact, I would imagine that SLG and SLB could gain entrance if they removed all traces of "Latina/o" from their identities.
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Old 04-19-2011, 03:44 PM
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The NMGC appears to be pretty lax in terms of its definition of a multicultural Greek org. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, Gamma Eta is a member of the NMGC. Given that fact, I would imagine that SLG and SLB could gain entrance if they removed all traces of "Latina/o" from their identities.
Sorry I don't know why allowing Gamma Eta being accepted would suggest SLB and SLG would not have issues getting in?

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Old 04-19-2011, 04:05 PM
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Sorry I don't know why allowing Gamma Eta would suggest SLB and SLG would not have issues getting in?
I only mean in terms of their former lives as Latino orgs. Gamma Eta was originally, "Gamma Eta Society for Hispanic Women." It was founded as a group for Latinas, but evolved into a "multicultural" sorority.
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Old 04-19-2011, 04:07 PM
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I only mean in terms of their former lives as Latino orgs. Gamma Eta was originally, "Gamma Eta Society for Hispanic Women." It was founded as a group for Latinas, but evolved into a "multicultural" sorority.
O I did not know that I read their website and didn't see anything like that...they just said it was "Gamma Eta Society" but I didn't exactly look deep. Thank for the info!
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Old 04-19-2011, 04:23 PM
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O I did not know that I read their website and didn't see anything like that...they just said it was "Gamma Eta Society" but I didn't exactly look deep. Thank for the info!
They've scrubbed their history of all references, but there are those of us who remember.

In the 2002/2003 UF yearbook, this was Gamma Eta's entry:

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In Fall of 1995 when the mother, Ilena Camilo had a vision of a unique alliance that would provide the opportunity for Hispanic women at the University of Florida to come together as one with the same ideals, interests and goals. [Emphasis mine]
Source: http://www.e-yearbook.com/yearbooks/.../Page_129.html

There were still references to their Latina roots as of 2005 when Theta Nu Xi first established a chapter on the campus. Since then, however, Gamma Eta has made an intentional effort to be known as "multicultural."
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:50 PM
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So we never got to the point of this thread...should an organization that no longer promotes themselves as latino or latina be allowed to stay in NALFO.

Also, what about the orgs that left? I doubt they will be allowed into NMGC so is a new council the best fit for organizations who were founded as Latino or Latina but now consider themselves multiculturals?
Just some thoughts people...

P.S. this is stupid but what would you call the council? slow work day...
Coming back to the topic at hand, I think that if the org is already a member of NALFO, unless NALFO really wants to cut down on member orgs, it should stay, if not for anything else than historical ties as NALFO is what is also in part to these orgs. The criteria of being a solely LGLO could be for new members.

As for the orgs that left, as a member of one, I doubt they'll look into NMGC. NMGC is even younger than NALFO and has many of the same issues. The orgs could find the many of the same conflicts they had in NALFO before, although NMGC does have less members, having even lost two member orgs since its founding. Also, I don't think a new council would be wise. There are too many umbrella councils already.

Finally, excluding the orgs that left NALFO up to 2006, the three fraternities that left NALFO are NIC members. SLG might have it more challenging, but it is currently stable enough to not being hurt by not being a member of a National council. Don't get me wrong, being a member of a National council is good, but is not ultimately necessary.
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:54 PM
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As for the orgs that left, as a member of one, I doubt they'll look into NMGC. NMGC is even younger than NALFO and has many of the same issues. The orgs could find the many of the same conflicts they had in NALFO before, although NMGC does have less members, having even lost two member orgs since its founding. Also, I don't think a new council would be wise. There are too many umbrella councils already.
Yep.

Pretty much all of the organizations that would "qualify" for NMGC would be significantly larger and (presumably) more established, so they'd be back in the same situation they were in with NALFO.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:08 PM
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Don't get me wrong, being a member of a National council is good, but is not ultimately necessary.
Ehhh...yes and no. In terms of recruitment, colleges/universities are making their requirements more stringent by the year. There are many schools out there that will not allow any organization to be established that is not affiliated by a recognized council.
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:31 PM
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Ehhh...yes and no. In terms of recruitment, colleges/universities are making their requirements more stringent by the year. There are many schools out there that will not allow any organization to be established that is not affiliated by a recognized council.
But who certifies the councils?
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:36 PM
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But who certifies the councils?
The schools commonly identify which councils are acceptable, but you and I have the same question.
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