Is making a pledge sing hazing?

[Kevin]

Are you part of a national organization with a hazing policy? Consult that.

If not, consult your student code of conduct and state and local laws.

These folks are telling you what is hazing for them. Hazing is not something with a concrete definition.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Are you part of a national organization with a hazing policy? Consult that.

If not, consult your student code of conduct and state and local laws.

These folks are telling you what is hazing for them. Hazing is not something with a concrete definition.

!!! for emphasis.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Are you part of a national organization with a hazing policy? Consult that.

If not, consult your student code of conduct and state and local laws.

These folks are telling you what is hazing for them. Hazing is not something with a concrete definition.

Also, see campus rules and state law, if applicable.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Are you part of a national organization with a hazing policy? Consult that.

If not, consult your student code of conduct and state and local laws.

These folks are telling you what is hazing for them. Hazing is not something with a concrete definition.

Just to emphasize again.

[excelblue]

Yeah, it all depends on which definition of hazing you use.

However, more importantly, why are you doing anything if it doesn't serve a clear purpose and have solid results?

There are places where road trips and scavenger hunts are considered hazing (thankfully, not my campus). There are times where singing can be hazing, but there are also times where making them work out until they're sore all over isn't.

Other posters have covered why singing, in your situation, is hazing. I'd consider it hazing too.

As for how you can make pledges work out until they're sore while not having it be considered hazing: they show up and work out with some of the more athletic brothers.