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Old 04-08-2011, 02:08 AM
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I'm just wondering if anyone knows anything to just change the culture of the school to become more greek. We have 3 fraternities (Tau Kappa Epsilon, Kappa Sigma, and a local fraternity Kappa Epsilon Theta) and 2 sororities (Beta Beta Gamma, Alpha Gamma Delta).


Personally I am content with the current state of our chapter out here. It's not too big, not too small.

So I guess my question is how to increase the amount of people who rush. Is it all advertising? Is it just getting out there and communicating?
You can't have your cake and eat it too, not to mention it will take the participation of all the GLOs on campus to change things. If you want more people (in general) to go greek you need to advertise, be visible, and have an active IFC and NPC.

A result of increased interest in fraternities is well....more members If you enjoy the current size of your "right-sized" chapter, why would you want a sharp increase in membership?
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:21 AM
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You can't have your cake and eat it too, not to mention it will take the participation of all the GLOs on campus to change things. If you want more people (in general) to go greek you need to advertise, be visible, and have an active IFC and NPC.

A result of increased interest in fraternities is well....more members If you enjoy the current size of your "right-sized" chapter, why would you want a sharp increase in membership?
There cannot be an active College Panhellenic because there is only one NPC group on campus.
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:37 AM
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When I was there, there were about 8 each sororities and fraternities, including Imiloa and Wakaba Kai. They were all cultural (i.e., you had to be Japanese to be in Wakaba Kai and Hawaiian to be in Imiloa, etc.) and they all hazed with a vengeance, which is probably one reason they folded. Who wants to pay good money to be hazed? And everyone knew they did it because they hazed openly--in the cafeteria, on the main campus, etc.

Plus it's a commuter campus with lots of kids who have jobs and no time for any extracurriculars. That makes recruitment hard.
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Old 04-08-2011, 02:50 PM
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Plus it's a commuter campus with lots of kids who have jobs and no time for any extracurriculars. That makes recruitment hard.
That's definitely going to make getting numbers very, very difficult. But see, with the other leaders who organize Greek Week and stuff, if you can hold some more "open" events to non-Greeks so that they can see if they would enjoy being Greek. That'd increase visibility and hopefully interest. Make it worthwhile for these students to not go home every weekend.

We often have concerts with our philanthropies, everyone can attend--sometimes with the purchase of a ticket, sometimes not. Try a Hawaiian BBQ, we host a BBQ in the quad to generate freshmen interest in IFC, and in your case, who doesn't love Hawaiian food!? We have booths set up for each fraternity, with these information cards of our rush events and who we are.

There are very many ways, and the other repliers are on point. Be visible, but be respectable. Interest in IFC will follow. This may take time, Greek life may be more popular only after you graduate, so enjoy the brotherhood you have, although I admire your desire to do better.
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Old 04-08-2011, 03:26 PM
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Try a Hawaiian BBQ, we host a BBQ in the quad to generate freshmen interest in IFC, and in your case, who doesn't love Hawaiian food!?
SMH.

The last thing he should think of doing is a "Hawaiian" anything.
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Old 04-08-2011, 03:28 PM
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SMH.

The last thing he should think of doing is a "Hawaiian" anything.
Stuff like that only works in Texas lol
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Old 04-08-2011, 03:30 PM
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Try a Hawaiian BBQ, we host a BBQ in the quad to generate freshmen interest in IFC, and in your case, who doesn't love Hawaiian food!?
Or as they probably call it: Food.
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Old 04-08-2011, 03:35 PM
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Or as they probably call it: Food.
I don't know why this made me laugh so hard LOL
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:01 PM
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You can tell a lot about how strong greek life is going to be on campus without ever seeing greeks.

It's a commuter school? Well subtract all the commuters, two-thirds of the people living in dorms, take 5-10% of what's left and that's probably in the same hemisphere as your totals.

What's the entertainment access? If you're in the middle of nowhere, there's very limited options to go out both locally and in commuting distance, there's not public stuff (river/lake/beach/etc), etc.. and the majority of students are going to hate life. Then, you'll have a massive greek system, cause the motivation and value of being part of it are huge. You're in Hawaii, so I'm pretty sure you're on the other end of that spectrum. Most people probably don't need you to have a good time, either in reality or perception.

What's the housing situation? You said you don't have a greek row, which is fine, most places don't. But I don't know what houses you do have. If they're either none or crap hole little run down places, then that's no motivation to join. If they're nice places with big common areas and lots of rooms that people want to live in (especially if you can have meal service and make it cheaper than campus while getting better quality), then that'd be a draw.

What kind of greek tradition is there? Is it a lot of international students or first generation college students? Do a high percentage of students have parents that were greek? Is a large chunk of the faculty or administration greek? What about alumni support? So, pretty much bad on all that right?

You're also in Hawaii (we got that established right? ) which means most nationals aren't going to consider expansion there just because of the cost of doing business. Having a consultant drive a rent car a hundred miles to from a visit at an existing chapter to another school that would potentially bring in another 10k a year is reasonable. Buying tickets to Hawaii while still only getting that same income is just not worth it.

My point is the accepting the things you cannot change part of who you are. Once you've done that then you can understand what you can realistically improve and what you have to do to accomplish that.

So... I like your idea of getting with the University to conduct a session during orientations. Talk to your headquarters about year round recruitment, both on campus an in high schools. You need to not wait around to see what shows up to formal rush. You need to make recruiting automatic and part of your constant culture. That gives you a good chance to do values based stuff which can make your chapter better fast. Marketing is good too.

Strategically though, you need to look at why your members are willing to pay dues. That's probably because they just stumbled into rush and learned to love it in pledgeship. But, if you asked them if they'd be willing to pay their dues amount to get intramurals, the social events you do, etc without a fraternity being part of the equation, most would say no. I'm in the slightest saying your fraternity should be about those things, but you need to make members feel like they're getting their money's worth. When they don't that hurts collections and retention, which screws your finances. But, from the outside, if the perception is the benefits are not worth the costs, then people aren't going to join. You need to work on those perceptions and be able to sell the economies of scale you get by pooling resources that makes things possible no other student can have access to.

That and just learn to rush & retain better. Make the best of what you got and leave it better than you found it. Don't try to turn Hawaii into Ole Miss, or even USC, cause it'll never happen.
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:18 PM
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My point is the accepting the things you cannot change part of who you are. Once you've done that then you can understand what you can realistically improve and what you have to do to accomplish that.
I like this.

But definitely make sure that you are settled within your GLO before trying to make everything OK across the system.
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:09 PM
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Try a Hawaiian BBQ, we host a BBQ in the quad to generate freshmen interest in IFC, and in your case, who doesn't love Hawaiian food!?
YES. This is totally it. Please include the hula girls, fire eaters, you know, all that crap they drag the tourists at the resorts to so they actually feel like they're in Hawaii. On a mostly commuter campus, I'm sure that will go over exceedingly well.

Don't forget your coconut bra!

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