concurrent enrollment

AOII Angel · #1 03-31-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by carnation

At some competitive schools, she would indeed have the disadvantages that any sophomore has. It happened to one of our daughters. Since then, we have encouraged our children who do dual enrollment to stop shy of 30 hours, not because of the recruitment disadvantage but because of something worse--at a lot of schools, you're not eligible for first-year scholarships if you passed 30. You actually get discriminated against for excelling!

Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb!

33girl · #2 03-31-2011, 11:11 AM

Not dumb at all. Many students don't have the chance to do something like this (concurrent enrollment), depending on their location and/or their lack of means.

knight_shadow · #3 03-31-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Not dumb at all. Many students don't have the chance to do something like this (concurrent enrollment), depending on their location and/or their lack of means.

But the kids who do have access to these programs still deserve to be in the running for aid, should they need it.

carnation · #4 03-31-2011, 11:17 AM

Another crappy thing: in many districts if you choose dual enrollment, your diploma is downgraded from Advanced College Prep to College Prep.

Yet in dual enrollment, you take and usually get credit for the college courses that Advanced College Prep students struggle through AP courses to get credit for.

For many years, other Spanish teachers/professors and I have advised high school students to either do dual enrollment (usually they test into at least the second semester of college Spanish if they've had 3 years in high school) or take a 4th year in high school and merely take the placement test when they start college. With 4 years, many students place into college Spanish at the junior level. Forget the stress of the AP course and test! What does that get you? If you score a 3, 4, or 5, you get into the second semester.

knight_shadow · #5 03-31-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by carnation

Advanced College Prep to College Prep

Sidenote: Is this designation a big deal? I was on the "Distinguished" track, but I never acknowledged that after graduating high school. Does it carry over into college in other places?

33girl · #6 03-31-2011, 11:27 AM

I've never heard of such a thing (ACP vs CP). And yeah, what does it really matter? You get into college before you get your diploma.

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

But the kids who do have access to these programs still deserve to be in the running for aid, should they need it.

That's my point. I don't think a lot of them need it as much. The kids who are really strapped were working at McDonald's 30 hours a week instead of taking college classes. That's been my experience, anyway.

carnation · #7 03-31-2011, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

That's my point. I don't think a lot of them need it as much. The kids who are really strapped were working at McDonald's 30 hours a week instead of taking college classes. That's been my experience, anyway.

We're talking about full rides in some cases, not some $500 supplement! A lot of students know exactly which award they're aiming for at which school.

DeltaBetaBaby · #8 03-31-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation

We're talking about full rides in some cases, not some $500 supplement! A lot of students know exactly which award they're aiming for at which school.

But then, shouldn't they be done in only three years? If you have a year less to pay for, isn't that the same as getting a one-year free ride?

AOII Angel · #9 04-02-2011, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I've never heard of such a thing (ACP vs CP). And yeah, what does it really matter? You get into college before you get your diploma.

That's my point. I don't think a lot of them need it as much. The kids who are really strapped were working at McDonald's 30 hours a week instead of taking college classes. That's been my experience, anyway.

You don't have to be below the federal poverty line to need financial aid.

carnation · #10 03-31-2011, 11:29 AM

In some school districts, it's a huge big deal only we realized early on that it was only on the student's transcript (not even the diploma) and that the colleges didn't seem to care much about that--only the GPA and the standardized test scores. So our oldest did the Advanced College Prep thing and the rest have done either College Prep or College Prep with dual enrollment.