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03-30-2011, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by PiKA2001
I've seen it fuck up way too many lives and it is no way victimless.
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It caaaaaaan be victimless.
It also can not be.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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03-30-2011, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
It caaaaaaan be victimless.
It also can not be.
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Yeah, and drunk driving CAN be victimless too.
BUT if someone who gets into drugs fucks up their life, can that be really be considered victimless? Cuz they are kinda victims of their own bad decisions.
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03-30-2011, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by PiKA2001
Yeah, and drunk driving CAN be victimless too.
BUT if someone who gets into drugs fucks up their life, can that be really be considered victimless? Cuz they are kinda victims of their own bad decisions.
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If it fucks up their life, why do you care?
I'm picturing you running around slapping hamburgers out of peoples hands.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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03-30-2011, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
If it fucks up their life, why do you care?
I'm picturing you running around slapping hamburgers out of peoples hands.
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"Their" could be your spouse, child, best friend, or parent. I'd say that's reason enough to care.
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03-30-2011, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
It caaaaaaan be victimless.
It also can not be.
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Beyond what PIKA said, when you're buying drugs you're feeding the war in Mexico, other violence in the US and so on. If you're selling drugs you're making bank on the back of addiction of others (victims).
And, ultimately even if you think it's victimless, it's still a crime. When you face jail or prison time for possession or sale it's amazing how quickly people's "it's victimless it's OK" principles whither down to "Not guilty look I'm a white kid with no violence in my background please don't make me go to jaaaaaaail"
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03-30-2011, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
Beyond what PIKA said, when you're buying drugs you're feeding the war in Mexico, other violence in the US and so on. If you're selling drugs you're making bank on the back of addiction of others (victims).
And, ultimately even if you think it's victimless, it's still a crime. When you face jail or prison time for possession or sale it's amazing how quickly people's "it's victimless it's OK" principles whither down to "Not guilty look I'm a white kid with no violence in my background please don't make me go to jaaaaaaail"
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Piggy back and using my conservative voice.
Those people that become victims of drug use end up in the system being taken care of (either in jail or a rehab facility) by our tax dollars. Okay yeah pass a law saying we shouldn't have to take care of them, then you let the problem persist and fester, then it ends up spreading. I don't care how much "flight" you have in you. You can only go so far away from the "elements" you think you are moving away from before they eventually catch you. The reality is there is only so much land in the world for you to move to.
Drugs are not victimless, we pay for it one way or another.
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03-30-2011, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
Beyond what PIKA said, when you're buying drugs you're feeding the war in Mexico, other violence in the US and so on. If you're selling drugs you're making bank on the back of addiction of others (victims).
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Ahh but you've come to the meeting of my point.
Those are results of the prohibition of drugs, not the drugs themselves. The prohibition of drugs has caused far more harm to people (in terms of loss of freedom, private property, death, and so on) than the drugs themselves.
For someone who claims to say "fuck you" to anyone who dares tread on female reproductive rights and homosexuality, you've now become totalitarian on what someone might want to do with their own body.
Oh, the hypocrisy.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
Last edited by Elephant Walk; 03-30-2011 at 03:09 PM.
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03-30-2011, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
Ahh but you've come to the meeting of my point.
Those are results of the prohibition of drugs, not the drugs themselves. The prohibition of drugs has caused far more harm to people (in terms of loss of freedom, private property, death, and so on) than the drugs themselves.
For someone who claims to say "fuck you" to anyone who dares tread on female reproductive rights and homosexuality, you've now become totalitarian on what someone might want to do with their own body.
Oh, the hypocrisy.
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Wait, where did I say I supported the current drug laws? Where? Oh that came out of your ass? Is that where you keep that story about your membership too?
Also, how do I "claim to say fuck you?" Citation please.
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03-30-2011, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
The prohibition of drugs has caused far more harm to people (in terms of loss of freedom, private property, death, and so on) than the drugs themselves.
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I'm afraid I agree with you.
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