USC (CA) Alleged "Rooftop" Photos (Kappa Sigma)

[AnotherKD]

The pic was on tfm, but I don't see it now. It was quite obvious... they weren't exactly laying down...

[dnall]

Originally Posted by AnotherKD

The pic was on tfm, but I don't see it now. It was quite obvious... they weren't exactly laying down...

It's still there:
http://totalfratmove.com/400211#comments

What I heard about this was that the guy was identified as a KappaSig, not specifically that it was THE guy who wrote the cocksman email. I could almost see if it was that specific guy though, as suspended & almost certainly going to be expelled tends to lead to pretty atrocious behavior.

[33girl]

Nice tan lines. TNF.

At least if this was the email writer, they could say "one bad apple" and be done with it.

[SC2013]

The email guy and the rooftop guy are not one and the same.

It's funny though. Kappa Sig in general is a pretty tame house. The email guy apparently transferred in from a rowdier chapter that's gotten in trouble in the past. Generally our chapter--and I can say this lovingly as a friend who's an officer in the house said so himself--is borderline nerdy. It's somewhat amusing that our chapter of Kappa Sig has become the infamously "fratty" house of the west coast, when there are many other frats on the Row which probably more accurately depict the kind of lifestyle the email depicts. I guess the other frats just don't degrade women in public or on the Internet, but it's still definitely there, and much worse.

[Barbie's_Rush]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Nice tan lines. TNF.

I'm impressed by the size of the black box myself.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by aephi alum

Honestly, it's not that difficult to get roof access. I will take my own campus as a prime example. MIT has a long-standing tradition of hacking, which comes in two aspects: the more public aspect of doing stunts like putting campus police cars on top of the Great Dome, and the more private aspect of just plain getting into spaces people aren't supposed to get into (which includes roofs, steam tunnels, abandoned elevator shafts, etc.) Incoming freshmen can participate in "Orange Tours" where they are taken into some of these forbidden areas with the assistance of experienced guides. (And, yes, you can be arrested if found in a forbidden area. MIT CPs aren't just rent-a-cops - they have to serve on the police force of an actual town or city before being hired, and they have the authority to arrest people.)

But I digress.

I would imagine that, after the "cocksman" email, the national officers of the fraternity felt they had to make an example of the brother "doing the deed" in a public place where he and his partner were easily caught on camera and he was so easily identifiable. People do stupid things when they get drunk (has it been established that either or both of them was drunk?). There's a certain thrill in gaining access to somewhere you shouldn't be, and I imagine that having sex in said place would be icing on the cake.

IMO, they also should have expelled (or at least reprimanded) the originator of the "cocksman" email (assuming they are not one and the same). I've read the full text of the email, and it was disgusting, to say the least.

I'm just thinking of Los Angeles being in California with a very active legal system, and that access turning into a law suit or a tort for not preventing (or having a notification system if the door is opened) access to a rooftop. This whole situation is an attractive nuisance in more way than one.

Originally Posted by SC2013

The email guy and the rooftop guy are not one and the same.

It's funny though. Kappa Sig in general is a pretty tame house. The email guy apparently transferred in from a rowdier chapter that's gotten in trouble in the past. Generally our chapter--and I can say this lovingly as a friend who's an officer in the house said so himself--is borderline nerdy. It's somewhat amusing that our chapter of Kappa Sig has become the infamously "fratty" house of the west coast, when there are many other frats on the Row which probably more accurately depict the kind of lifestyle the email depicts. I guess the other frats just don't degrade women in public or on the Internet, but it's still definitely there, and much worse.

Individuals in and out of fraternities do it, they just haven't been caught or it hasn't gone public yet. The unfortunate thing about these incidents is that the back lash is so much worse and often goes too far, punishing people who haven't done this or have handled the one member here or there who is out of line with the rest. I know a lot of people cannot have their minds changed, nor does having a thought police force work, but getting people to check public behavior that exposes a whole system and group of people not involved in the problem is where it needs to start. That may leave chapters with kicking people out as their only option, which can be unfortunate but the best prevention and cure.

[trojanpride]

I know a lot of people cannot have their minds changed, nor does having a thought police force work, but getting people to check public behavior that exposes a whole system and group of people not involved in the problem is where it needs to start.

I gotta say, our probation isn't doing too much except moving parties to the weekends. IFC's doing PR work but since the problems are caused mostly by one frat, other houses here are just pissed at them for getting us all in trouble.

Last semester after probation ended people were itching to get back to the row and even more people were sent to the hospital, which gets us in trouble even more, and it's going to repeat.

[LatinaAlumna]

Originally Posted by trojanpride

Last semester after probation ended people were itching to get back to the row and even more people were sent to the hospital, which gets us in trouble even more, and it's going to repeat.

Man up and do something to prevent it, then.