I want to join a fraternity!

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

There are lots of great schools out there with great programs, some of which have everything one wants including a greek system and one that has the organization that one's mom/dad was/is part of. Why not choose one of them and get the entire college experience that one seeks? There is nothing wrong with this. To some people, this is important. To others, not so much and that's okay too.

I don't see transferring exclusively because of Greek Life. Just as I wouldn't get transferring for any student organization. Particularly for more life-long oriented organziations, there are ways to join later, or for others fill the desire for a social or service life in other ways. Sure, include Greek Life in your considerations when choosing a school, but transferring in/for graduate school purely for Greek Life? Nuh uh.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by elicampbell

SigEp has Alumni Volunteer Corp. Some volunteers are not members. We do not let them participate in ritual, membership selection or anything that is related ritualistic. It is not as if we throw open the doors and let everyone in see our ritual. There are some volunteer positions that are only open to members of the fraternity.

I hope that this answers your question.

It does. Thanks.

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

There are lots of great schools out there with great programs, some of which have everything one wants including a greek system and one that has the organization that one's mom/dad was/is part of. Why not choose one of them and get the entire college experience that one seeks? There is nothing wrong with this. To some people, this is important. To others, not so much and that's okay too.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I don't see transferring exclusively because of Greek Life. Just as I wouldn't get transferring for any student organization. Particularly for more life-long oriented organziations, there are ways to join later, or for others fill the desire for a social or service life in other ways. Sure, include Greek Life in your considerations when choosing a school, but transferring in/for graduate school purely for Greek Life? Nuh uh.

Exactly. I'm all for getting the total college experience, but you can get it without being Greek. If you want to transfer because the new school is better for your degree, fine -- I'd encourage it. Transferring because you want to be an XYZ doesn't make sense, though.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I don't see transferring exclusively because of Greek Life. Just as I wouldn't get transferring for any student organization. Particularly for more life-long oriented organziations, there are ways to join later, or for others fill the desire for a social or service life in other ways. Sure, include Greek Life in your considerations when choosing a school, but transferring in/for graduate school purely for Greek Life? Nuh uh.

Where did you get purely for greek life? Where? I said there are schools that have ALL that one wants including greek life.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Where did you get purely for greek life? Where? I said there are schools that have ALL that one wants including greek life.

It's the context of the thread. The post that they responded to stated that he should transfer if he's really serious about this (Greek Life). Therefore, if the OP were to transfer it would primarily be for Greek Life.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Where did you get purely for greek life? Where? I said there are schools that have ALL that one wants including greek life.

What Dr. Phil said. Dnall brought up the idea that if this was sooooo important the OP should have transferred purely for the purpose of joining an org.

I agreed with you about the rest of it.


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And seriously, one assumes that someone's father is dead because they say what about 75% of non-NPHC greeks say "My parent WAS XYZ?" It's about 50/50 dumbass/asshole.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

And seriously, one assumes that someone's father is dead because they say what about 75% of non-NPHC greeks say "My parent WAS XYZ?" It's about 50/50 dumbass/asshole.

Have I been out of the loop or has Drolefille been really really really cut throat this week? LOL.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Have I been out of the loop or has Drolefille been really really really cut throat this week? LOL.

I was running on about 4-5 hours a sleep a night until Wednesday night. I was gonna let this one slide until the 'explanation' made it clear it was intentional.

Also I'm a big fat meanie-head.

[dnall]

If he's so serious about joining a fraternity, then he should transfer, and whatever other factors be damned. Whatever is most important to you is what matters most. And would never classify any greek org as anything remotely close to any other student org.

Everyone has a different greek experience, but for me that was much more meaningful and educating than anything I learned in any classroom. My undergraduate degree is barely worth the paper it's printed on, and wouldn't have mattered at all what school it came from. My greek experience changed my life and shaped most of what I believe in.

If it's key to this guy, then he should transfer. That is a much higher percentage than trying to start an off-campus chapter at a school that doesn't have a greek system or anything like that. Being a grad student makes this more complicated, and he should inquire first with the chapter in question. In saying that, I do mean quite a bit more than a phone call to see if it's possible. He should start a relationship with them & be basically assured of a bid before he pulls the trigger on transferring.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by dnall

If he's so serious about joining a fraternity, then he should transfer, and whatever other factors be damned. Whatever is most important to you is what matters most. And would never classify any greek org as anything remotely close to any other student org.

Everyone has a different greek experience, but for me that was much more meaningful and educating than anything I learned in any classroom. My undergraduate degree is barely worth the paper it's printed on, and wouldn't have mattered at all what school it came from. My greek experience changed my life and shaped most of what I believe in.

If it's key to this guy, then he should transfer. That is a much higher percentage than trying to start an off-campus chapter at a school that doesn't have a greek system or anything like that. Being a grad student makes this more complicated, and he should inquire first with the chapter in question. In saying that, I do mean quite a bit more than a phone call to see if it's possible. He should start a relationship with them & be basically assured of a bid before he pulls the trigger on transferring.

Or, as mentioned earlier, he can make the best of his college experience at the school he's at.

There's no way in hell I'd give up a degree at, say, Rice and transfer to Sul Ross State University just because the former didn't have Greek Life. Let's be real.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Or, as mentioned earlier, he can make the best of his college experience at the school he's at.

There's no way in hell I'd give up a degree at, say, Rice and transfer to Sul Ross State University just because the former didn't have Greek Life. Let's be real.

This doesn't even get into having a chapter essentially promising a non-attending graduate student a bid. Outside of a setup for a movie, when does that happen? But no, it's important so he should totally do it!