Doggystyle82,
I know you said this thread is dead so I will be brief. As i said before, I have had first hand experience (two generation of a certain frat,

, three if you count my brother.
Scared to pledge? Not quite. Want my membership handed to me? Wrong also. I just want a process that doesn't invovle the things I HAVE SEEN.
I guess this is why it is so hard to talk about the process, present members have a mentality that just doen't lead to compromise, IN MY OPINION.
Sister 411,
Both of you say" many want a cake walk into greekdom", but if that is what the elected leaders say for membership why not stop the division? I know I probaly won't get a reply but .....
GREAT DEBATE TO ALL!
Bro CDM, 32 degree
MWPHGL of IL
p.s.
I used my mind and civility more than physical attributes to achieve those degrees.