Indiana University Recruitment - Page 20

KSUViolet06 · #**286** 01-07-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fourleafed

Last year, as a senior, I swore I would not miss recruitment one bit. And now, I want to be back in Bloomington pinning sparkly paper to the ceiling of the living room at 4 AM.

I think this is the story of every new sorority alumna's life.

Senior year it's "OMG this meeting is sooo long I'm so glad I don't ever have to sit through another election ever again."

Then it's "OMG I WISH I could be back there again." (without the classes of course).

TriDeltaSallie · #**287** 01-07-2011, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fourleafed

the fact remains that awesome girls do attend a full preference round with 3 parties and do not receive a bid, and that just plain sucks.

I know I'm not part of that system, but this just seems so, so wrong.

AZTheta · #**288** 01-07-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TriDeltaSallie

I know I'm not part of that system, but this just seems so, so wrong.

Agreed. SMH. Can't wrap my head around this at all.

TriDeltaSallie · #**289** 01-07-2011, 07:48 PM

Okay, forgive me if this has already been explained in the previous gazillion pages, but I can't stop thinking about this.

How can a woman go to three preference parties and end up with no bid, assuming she lists all three? I know IU uses the bed system. I get that. Are the chapters inviting that many more women to preference than can possibly be taken? For example, someone mentioned Tri Delta up above having 25 spots for their pledge class. Is DDD having parties of 50-100 women for each preference party or something?

I really don't get it. I get the bed thing. But does the Panhellenic put no restrictions on how many women the chapters can invite to preference? As an outsider, this comes across as the ultimate in stringing women along.

Please correct me and tell me I'm wrong. I really want to be.

DubaiSis · #**290** 01-08-2011, 03:30 AM

It can just be a mismatch. If a girl attends all 3 parties and is toward the bottom of all 3 lists, even if they don't invite way too many, it could happen. On most campuses, they allow chapters to go beyond quota as a courtesy to the PNM and to reward them for not ISPing, but since maximum numbers is such an issue at IU, they have to stick to the predetermined quotas.

My guess is it doesn't happen A LOT, but nonetheless, "poor Schmuck" can get left out.

AGDee · #**291** 01-08-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TriDeltaSallie

Okay, forgive me if this has already been explained in the previous gazillion pages, but I can't stop thinking about this.

How can a woman go to three preference parties and end up with no bid, assuming she lists all three? I know IU uses the bed system. I get that. Are the chapters inviting that many more women to preference than can possibly be taken? For example, someone mentioned Tri Delta up above having 25 spots for their pledge class. Is DDD having parties of 50-100 women for each preference party or something?

I really don't get it. I get the bed thing. But does the Panhellenic put no restrictions on how many women the chapters can invite to preference? As an outsider, this comes across as the ultimate in stringing women along.

Please correct me and tell me I'm wrong. I really want to be.

Even in a traditional Quota/Total system it is possible for Suzy PNM to be at the bottom of all three chapters lists and end up without a bid. Only a handful of schools guarantee a bid if Suzy PNM maximizes her options.

DubaiSis · #**292** 01-08-2011, 10:54 AM

AGDee, I thought with RFM, more (most) campuses were doing it. I do think it's an excellent idea to minimize the dreaded ISP. It appears to only send chapters a couple over quota, and would seem to alleviate a lot of worries among the PNMs about putting their heart and soul into this, just to have the rug pulled out from under them. If I'm wrong, I hope it's a trend in that direction. I think I'll start a thread...

CookiesNCream · #**293** 01-09-2011, 12:02 AM

Soooooo after these past couple of days, cuts from houses I thought I loved, and mental and physical exhaustion, I've narrowed down my houses for preference round. One of them is a house that's oftentimes unpopular with PNMs, and despite all the tent talk and stereotypes of the houses, it just felt SO WEIRD not putting them in my top 3. I've loved them all along but was always hesitant to go forth with them because of their reputation, but something changed in me today.

I feel like I grew up a lot today by the simple action of picking houses and I'm really happy.

KSUViolet06 · #**294** 01-09-2011, 12:09 AM

^^^Good for you.

When you're hanging out in groups and spending so much time talking about recruitment, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that you need to make decisions based on YOU, not what other PNMs in your group think.

DeltaBetaBaby · #**295** 01-09-2011, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CookiesNCream

Soooooo after these past couple of days, cuts from houses I thought I loved, and mental and physical exhaustion, I've narrowed down my houses for preference round. One of them is a house that's oftentimes unpopular with PNMs, and despite all the tent talk and stereotypes of the houses, it just felt SO WEIRD not putting them in my top 3. I've loved them all along but was always hesitant to go forth with them because of their reputation, but something changed in me today.

I feel like I grew up a lot today by the simple action of picking houses and I'm really happy.

Oh, this warms my heart (and it's farking cold in Chicago right now). I promise, promise, promise you that you will not regret the decision.

fourleafed · #**296** 01-09-2011, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CookiesNCream

Soooooo after these past couple of days, cuts from houses I thought I loved, and mental and physical exhaustion, I've narrowed down my houses for preference round. One of them is a house that's oftentimes unpopular with PNMs, and despite all the tent talk and stereotypes of the houses, it just felt SO WEIRD not putting them in my top 3. I've loved them all along but was always hesitant to go forth with them because of their reputation, but something changed in me today.

I feel like I grew up a lot today by the simple action of picking houses and I'm really happy.

That is really awesome. I know the tent talk can be impossible to avoid during IU recruitment, especially overhearing things on the bus, but ignoring it is absolutely the best way to try to find a house that could become your home.

I went into recruitment bring so shallow and so stuck on stereotypes but during 8 party (well, 6 party for me) round I just could not deny feeling so much more comfortable in "lower tier" houses and I shocked myself when I listed those for pref. I certainly think I grew up too and learned a lot about myself in that one week of recruitment. Good luck tomorrow!

IUGreekGirl · #**297** 01-09-2011, 02:20 AM

Good luck tomorrow. I don't know who you are, I don't know if you're coming to my chapter-- but regardless, good luck. Keep following your heart, that's the only way to go!

PhoenixAzul · #**298** 01-09-2011, 11:15 AM

I'm going to write what I did in another thread...

The "best" sorority is always YOUR sorority. The "best" sisters are always YOUR sisters. If you've got an open heart and mind, you'll be welcomed and happy in any of the chapters.

Good luck at pref, don't stress, and try to sleep!

AZTheta · #**299** 01-09-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by IUGreekGirl

Good luck tomorrow. I don't know who you are, I don't know if you're coming to my chapter-- but regardless, good luck. Keep following your heart, that's the only way to go!

Excellent advice! and seconded here.

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Originally Posted by PhoenixAzul

I'm going to write what I did in another thread...

The "best" sorority is always YOUR sorority. The "best" sisters are always YOUR sisters. If you've got an open heart and mind, you'll be welcomed and happy in any of the chapters.

Good luck at pref, don't stress, and try to sleep!

More excellent advice! Remember, what's "bottom" at Indiana may well be "top" at Connecticut or any other school.

It's STUPID, folks, STUPID, this whole tier business. It's meaningless when we consider the deeper purpose of sorority membership. You will, I hope, find a home, and, if you want, it will be for a lifetime. When bad things happen in your life, your Panhellenic sisters from every GLO will step in and hold your hand and help you through the hard times. They'll be there when you're having fun and they'll help you celebrate your triumphs as well.

Believe me, I know this is true. I am especially grateful for my Alpha Xi/AOII/Kappa sisters, in addition to all my Theta sisters, and all my other GLO sisters, this morning. Thank you all.

Now, Indiana PNMs, please, come back and share with us when you're finished with recruitment. May you find your home!

Rubberduckie · #**300** 01-09-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixAzul

I'm going to write what I did in another thread...

The "best" sorority is always YOUR sorority. The "best" sisters are always YOUR sisters. If you've got an open heart and mind, you'll be welcomed and happy in any of the chapters.

Good luck at pref, don't stress, and try to sleep!

This (all of this) is so true. I sometimes wonder what it would have been like if I had joined a different chapter. I realize I would have been happy nearly anywhere. Does that make me dislike my circumstances? No. Because my sisters are the best sisters I could ever ask for and my sorority is the best sorority.

If I had ended up somewhere else, this would probably still be true. The important thing is that I have a family who will be there for me no matter what and we share a common, beautiful organization. We all aspire to the same ideals and objectives.

Are there some girls I'm not best friends with? Yes. That would also be true anywhere I pledged.

Good luck, y'all! Keep your minds and hearts open and I hope you find a home.