Congresswoman Gabrielle Gifford of Southern Arizona Shot At Constituent Event

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by ADqtPiMel

Plus, the gunman has listed the Communist Manifesto as his favorite book -- so I doubt he's a Tea Partier.

Don't try to ascribe reason to a person who is clearly mentally ill. Choosing one point of interest about this man out of many interesting tidbits to try to fit your interests is as self serving as anyone else you're trying to discount. His rants about currencies based on "gold and silver" and unconstitutional "treasonous laws" and flags not mentioned in the constitution could clearly be twisted to have a Libertarian bent. But, I digress. This man appears to be mentally unstable and arguably targeted a Congresswoman because of anti-government delusions. If you are trying to say he was a Democrat, I'd say you are out of line.

[ADqtPiMel]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Don't try to ascribe reason to a person who is clearly mentally ill. Choosing one point of interest about this man out of many interesting tidbits to try to fit your interests is as self serving as anyone else you're trying to discount. His rants about currencies based on "gold and silver" and unconstitutional "treasonous laws" and flags not mentioned in the constitution could clearly be twisted to have a Libertarian bent. But, I digress. This man appears to be mentally unstable and arguably targeted a Congresswoman because of anti-government delusions. If you are trying to say he was a Democrat, I'd say you are out of line.

Hey, lay the hell off. I'm not trying to fit my interests or to discount anyone. I'm a journalist covering this shit (ergo, I have no political opinions) and I'm just trying to point out that people automatically assuming he's a Tea Party member (or affiliated with anything) is stupid.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by ADqtPiMel

Hey, lay the hell off. I'm not trying to fit my interests or to discount anyone. I'm a journalist covering this shit (ergo, I have no political opinions) and I'm just trying to point out that people automatically assuming he's a Tea Party member (or affiliated with anything) is stupid.

No, you didn't just make that point. If you did a little reading on the internet, you'd see all the claims that he must be a liberal because the Communist Manifesto was his "favorite book", though it's just listed as one of his favorites. It's a thinly veiled dig at Democrats laying the blame on their door. Just stop it. If you are a "journalist covering this shit" do more research before you post shit like that.

[ADqtPiMel]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

No, you didn't just make that point. If you did a little reading on the internet, you'd see all the claims that he must be a liberal because the Communist Manifesto was his "favorite book", though it's just listed as one of his favorites. It's a thinly veiled dig at Democrats laying the blame on their door. Just stop it. If you are a "journalist covering this shit" do more research before you post shit like that.

I have been fucking reporting and researching on this all day, so lay off with the patronizing bullshit. My comment was in direct response to someone mentioning upthread that many Facebook threads have referenced Sarah Palin/the Tea Party. I noted that someone listing the Communist Manifesto as an inspiration is unlikely to be a member of the Tea Party. That's all. It's absolutely fucking crazy for anyone to attempt to ascribe the shooter's motives to a political party.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by ADqtPiMel

I have been fucking reporting and researching on this all day, so lay off with the patronizing bullshit. My comment was in direct response to someone mentioning upthread that many Facebook threads have referenced Sarah Palin/the Tea Party. I noted that someone listing the Communist Manifesto as an inspiration is unlikely to be a member of the Tea Party. That's all. It's absolutely fucking crazy for anyone to attempt to ascribe the shooter's motives to a political party.

Yeah, and you completely left out the multiple other things that make his ideology similar to the Tea Party. Just because he isn't a card carrying member doesn't mean that the rhetoric of the past two years hasn't had an effect on him. It's not patronizing to point out that you are being insulting. Your comment could have gone without being said.

[ADqtPiMel]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Yeah, and you completely left out the multiple other things that make his ideology similar to the Tea Party. Just because he isn't a card carrying member doesn't mean that the rhetoric of the past two years hasn't had an effect on him. It's not patronizing to point out that you are being insulting. Your comment could have gone without being said.

Dude, you're misinterpreting me. I'm trying to point out that it's reductive to take one of his interests and turn it into him being a Tea Party member -- and that it's equally reductive to take the Communist Manifesto thing and turn it into him being a liberal. I 100% agree with you that the rhetoric and vitriol of the past several years almost certainly had an effect on a clearly freaking crazy individual.