Columbia University Drug Busts

[Ghostwriter]

This is discouraging if it proves to be true.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...-lsd-pot-ring/

NEW YORK — Five Columbia University students were charged Tuesday with selling LSD-spiked candy and other drugs at three fraternity houses and other residences on the Ivy League campus, with two allegedly claiming they needed the drug money to cover tuition.

[SOM]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

This is discouraging if it proves to be true.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...-lsd-pot-ring/

NEW YORK — Five Columbia University students were charged Tuesday with selling LSD-spiked candy and other drugs at three fraternity houses and other residences on the Ivy League campus, with two allegedly claiming they needed the drug money to cover tuition.

All too true Ghostwriter.
You may wish, if you have not yet done so, review thread on this story:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=117272

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by SOM

All too true Ghostwriter.
You may wish, if you have not yet done so, review thread on this story:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=117272

I figured "exlurker" would be on top of it but didn't look in the "Greek Life" forum. Apologies for doublethreading. Is that a real word? Doubt it but it works.

[oldu]

There is an extensive article in today's (12/18) NY Times about this situation.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by oldu

There is an extensive article in today's (12/18) NY Times about this situation.

But you didn't link it!

Wait, you're not reading a REAL paper, are you?
Drug bust isn't notable except for its address
Article about the arrests 12/8

[Drolefille]

Wait, so is which troll is 408...

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 408

...its really disappointing to be called out for trolling, when its my honest opinion. I'm greek. I do drugs. When I see drug busts amongst people my age, I lament.

I think the accused did a number of things wrong in this situation. They shouldn't of sold out of the house, that was the big problem. They probably should done a little more background on the undercover they sold to. I think it also would of been prudent to stay away from cocaine since that can really incite police involvement. I do think its interesting though, the times article stated that different houses specialized in different types of drugs. I thought that was pretty cool.

Regardless, I think the larger point here isn't that they were Greek but that they went to an Upper-Elite institution and its uncommon to see such a large bust at such an institution. Pretty captivating story if you ask me

Seriously. Just, wow.

[Ghostwriter]

^^^What she said. WOW.

You can't be serious and must be yanking our chain for reactions.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by 408

Warning: Long Post

I'm seriously not. I am very supportive of drug policy reform. In my opinion, the war on drugs wastes billions of dollars every year. That money would be well spent on other policy initiatives. I feel that some drugs (read: the majority of) should be made legal for a number of reasons. Primarily, I believe that drug use is a personal choice. It should be treated in a similar manner as alcohol and tobacco products.

It does cost the government financially when they have to take care of individuals who make poor decisions as a result of drug abuse and misuse. However, legalizing the substances and then fighting the ill effects of drugs from a harm reduction stand point would be a preventive measure which allows the government to recoup their spending over time. Additionally, if illegal substances are treated like alcohol and tobacco then the taxation on drugs would rake in millions upon millions of dollars

While it would be hectic at first, I really think that legalizing drugs is beneficial in the long run. State and local governments are in a serious deficit crises all across America. A fraction of the profits earned from illegal drug taxation would go a long way towards improving public schools, funding government pension programs (which are going to the shitter btw) and expanding public works programs.

I watched 60 minutes the other night and Gov. Chris Cristie of New Jersey went into detail on his state's budget crises. There simply isn't enough money to pay for all the things they have allocated money for. Governmental profits off of illegal drugs can stimulate the economy.

Additionally, it would help ease the tensions on the border where drug cartels are waging war with DEA agents, The Mexican army, and with each other.

Of course, there are limitations to this plan. The immediate impact of these drugs on the market would certainly negatively impact many Americans. But again, over time and by using harm reduction we can negate these effects.

This plan will never happen though. Its politically impossible and lobbyists from Big Tobacco and Big Alcohol would never allow it because substances like marijuana would dent their profit margin.

Honestly The only problem I have are the students linking the drug organization to their chapters. I see no reason to be discouraged about college students selling drugs when the actual Government is wasting billions of dollars every year trying to stop them.

I would like to note, though, that they should of been more careful in the situation. Five months is not a long time.

Honestly I have had college students tell me this before. They didn't choose an anonymous forum to share their thoughts but I was generous enough to listen without taking it a step further.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by 408

I don't understand the point of this post. I was discussing a topic relating to the thread on a forum. Anonymity is part of the process.

Maybe you should lay off the drugs. My point is that your sentiment is not uncommon among college students, some of whom feel comfortable sharing this sentiment in nonanonymous settings.

As for your anonymity, that's nice but your drug use is not automatically something to feel liberated and proud over.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by 408

I don't understand the point of this post. I was discussing a topic relating to the thread on a forum. Anonymity is part of the process.

You mean this anonymity?

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...05#post2013305

And QFP...

Originally Posted by 408

Phi - Delta, UMBC

I usually don't get moralistic about things like this but I do when the poster is a complete moron. You just outed your chapter, your school, and if your username is your scroll number, EXACTLY who you are.

[exlurker]

Update reported by Columbia's student paper:

http://www.columbiaspectator.com/201...se-brownstones

Excerpt:

. . . According to members of the organizations and a statement from the Division of Student Affairs, Pi Kappa Alpha, Psi Upsilon, and Alpha Epsilon Pi will lose their brownstones and will have only probationary recognition from the University for the next three years.
Other consequences will include extended social probation until fall 2011 and required three-year improvement plans. . . .

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by 408

First of all, there is no way to prove that I (or anyone else for that matter) used illegal substances. At this point, its all hearsay and accusations. It has no place here. Don't accuse me of things you can't prove.

Second of all, I never said I was "too good" to be influenced by one of the most addictive and deadly substances on earth. If one were to think that he would be the biggest bullshitter in the world and lying to himself. I understand and know my limits.

Third, I'm sure that any chapter of any GLO has members who use illegal substances. While, I made a mistake offering my identity, my chapter as a whole has done nothing illegal in nature and I help make sure of that. I was simply clarifying that all of our chapter activities are by national standard. Events such as the ones which occurred at Columbia or at the Towson University chapter of LXA are disrespectful and wrong. It is completely inappropriate to mix your chapter with illegal drugs and I have said this many times. What you do on your own time, away from the GLO is your own business.

"Lambs go to slaughter, A man he learns to walk away." that's what I'm doing.

What an idiot. Shut the hell up next time.

[als463]

Yeah, this one isn't too bright. 408, please don't go into the human services field. You sound like a pretentious d-bag. Do your GLO and your University a favor and stop while you are ahead.

[Benzgirl]

408 is the same guy that is asking why Tom Earp was banned. Have drugs impacted his clarity? You decide.