Racism at Ole Miss or Bama??

[SouthernBelle93]

Originally Posted by PincGator Que

You said this as if being black is a bad thing. "You have mosty white friends"..."black hair"..."white hair". WTF? And you're not a racist? Cool if you have mostly white friends but, you say it as though you don't fuck with black people.

No, I am most definitely not a racist. I have black friends too so do not put words into my mouth. There is a difference in the type of hair many races have and I was trying my best to describe mine, but truly it does not matter. Some of my friends were telling me stories about how at the schools i have mentioned above do not let in non-caucasians and I wanted to know from someone who might have attended either school to answer. I thought describing myself would make a difference for some reason, but it doesn't so that was my bad. I'm sorry that you found some of the things i said offensive but i did not intend for them to sound that way at all. I really just wanted to know if race is going to be a factor when rushing next fall.

[PincGator Que]

Originally Posted by SouthernBelle93

No, I am most definitely not a racist. I have black friends too so do not put words into my mouth. There is a difference in the type of hair many races have and I was trying my best to describe mine, but truly it does not matter. Some of my friends were telling me stories about how at the schools i have mentioned above do not let in non-caucasians and I wanted to know from someone who might have attended either school to answer. I thought describing myself would make a difference for some reason, but it doesn't so that was my bad. I'm sorry that you found some of the things i said offensive but i did not intend for them to sound that way at all. I really just wanted to know if race is going to be a factor when rushing next fall.

I wasn't putting words into your mouth, I don't have to. You already painted yourself to look like you have a color complex, based on your post. Race and gender make a difference in a lot of decisions that are made in everyday life, so get used to that. No, I wasn't offended by anything you posted, because I'm happy being black. Funny, how you posted everything else you're "mixed" with first, placing African American last. I don't know you, but based on your post, you sound like you wish you were white.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by PincGator Que

I wasn't putting words into your mouth, I don't have to. You already painted yourself to look like you have a color complex, based on your post. Race and gender make a difference in a lot of decisions that are made in everyday life, so get used to that. No, I wasn't offended by anything you posted, because I'm happy being black. Funny, how you posted everything else you're "mixed" with first, placing African American last. I don't know you, but based on your post, you sound like you wish you were white.

It's dumb to say she wishes she was white especially since you really don't know her ethnic background (she may be more "white" than black). That's cool you're happy to be black (as you should be) but why waste the energy to get all butt hurt if someone of mixed race identifies as being more white than black?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

It's dumb to say she wishes she was white especially since you really don't know her ethnic background (she may be more "white" than black). That's cool you're happy to be black (as you should be) but why waste the energy to get all butt hurt if someone of mixed race identifies as being more white than black?

There's a difference between how someone identifies and how they make a point to emphasize how VERY NON BLACK LOOKING they are. It's like me saying I support my gay friends but JUST SO YOU KNOW I HAVE A BOYFRIEND. MALE BOYFRIEND. STRAIGHT VERY STRAIGHT. That sort of thing.

Not sure if she just thought that describing herself that way would be more impressive to NPC sororities or if that's a result of how she identifies, or if that's a result of the societal values around her. But the criticism is fair.

[PincGator Que]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

It's dumb to say she wishes she was white especially since you really don't know her ethnic background (she may be more "white" than black). That's cool you're happy to be black (as you should be) but why waste the energy to get all butt hurt if someone of mixed race identifies as being more white than black?

I said based on her post that's how she comes off, to me. People can identify themselves in whichever way they please, but to disregard what your skin color is, (and in her case "non-white") because you want to be accepted by another race sounds like someone with a color complex. If you think my comments are dumb, then that's your opinion that you are entitled to believe. Frankly, I don't give a fuck what you think.

"I have white hair" not "black hair". What kind of shit is that? And what is "black hair" supposed to look like? In other words what she is trying to ask is, "since my skin color is light, I have "white hair", and since "most of my friends are white", etc etc etc. then should it be easier for me to get into this particular organization?" That's what her post sounds like, to me.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by PincGator Que

I said based on her post that's how she comes off, to me. People can identify themselves in whichever way they please, but to disregard what your skin color is, (and in her case "non-white") because you want to be accepted by another race sounds like someone with a color complex. If you think my comments are dumb, then that's your opinion that you are entitled to believe. Frankly, I don't give a fuck what you think.

"I have white hair" not "black hair". What kind of shit is that? And what is "black hair" supposed to look like? In other words what she is trying to ask is, "since my skin color is light, I have "white hair", and since "most of my friends are white", etc etc etc. then should it be easier for me to get into this particular organization?" That's what her post sounds like, to me.

Damn...aré you sure you're not the one with a complex? Why are you so offended that she's not embracing her "blackness"? It's my understanding that most people of white/black mixed race identify as being black because that is how they physically look as well as how society sees/treats them as(being black). From what I read of the OP, she claims to have more caucasian than black features. If she doesn't appear black, is it that crazy to think that maybe she's never been looked at/treated as being black, therefore doesn't identify as being black?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Damn...aré you sure you're not the one with a complex? Why are you so offended that she's not embracing her "blackness"? It's my understanding that most people of white/black mixed race identify as being black because that is how they physically look as well as how society sees/treats them as(being black). From what I read of the OP, she claims to have more caucasian than black features. If she doesn't appear black, is it that crazy to think that maybe she's never been looked at/treated as being black, therefore doesn't identify as being black?

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

No its not necessary but why make such a fuss about it? You can tell from her post she's young and naive and her post is quite tame compared to some of the others we see on here. You're gonna burn yourself out fast.

Let the record show that PiKA2001 is making more of a fuss than Que ever was. I am also not surprised that PiKA2001 missed the point completely.

Also, if the OP didn't identify (or physically look like) as Black or any other racial and ethnic minority then she wouldn't have brought her behind to GC to ask this question. She would've gone with the flow and to see how well she can mesh, just as many nonwhites who are technically racial and ethnic minorities do. These nonwhites receive the "what are you" question quite often and are able to assimilate quite well because people can't readily figure out "what they are"...and then they go home to their Black, Native American, Hispanic, etc. families.

[pixell]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Let the record show that PiKA2001 is making more of a fuss than Que ever was. I am also not surprised that PiKA2001 missed the point completely.

Also, if the OP didn't identify (or physically look like) as Black or any other racial and ethnic minority then she wouldn't have brought her behind to GC to ask this question. She would've gone with the flow and to see how well she can mesh, just as many nonwhites who are technically racial and ethnic minorities do. These nonwhites receive the "what are you" question quite often and are able to assimilate quite well because people can't readily figure out "what they are"...and then they go home to their Black, Native American, Hispanic, etc. families.

I agree with PincGator, drolefile and DrPhil.

Her post came off to me as "I don't really look or act black, so will they know I'm not really white during recruitment?" The whole thing seems weird to me, but it seems similar to the girls that come on here saying how pretty and awesome they are and asking for their chances.

I'm one of the "awkwardly pale" people she mentioned earlier, so maybe I'm off based but the whole question seemed pretty offensive.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

It's awesome that you think it's cool and that he should be happy to be Black. Whoa. Thanks for the approval. Sure.

PincGator Que already said that he wasn't offended by what she said. He's simply opinionated over what she says. But I realize that Black people can't have an opinion on topics pertaining to race without being told we are getting all butt hurt.

HA, you are really one of a kind special Dr. Phil! Yes I think everyone should be happy with who they are and comfortable in their own skin. I was just commenting how the guy had to post how happy he was to be black (was THAT necessary?) and make mention how she posted her AA-ness last. Would it have made that much of a difference had she said she was African-American/Irish/Dutch?

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Let the record show that PiKA2001 is making more of a fuss than Que ever was. I am also not surprised that PiKA2001 missed the point completely.

Also, if the OP didn't identify (or physically look like) as Black or any other racial and ethnic minority then she wouldn't have brought her behind to GC to ask this question. She would've gone with the flow and to see how well she can mesh, just as many nonwhites who are technically racial and ethnic minorities do. These nonwhites receive the "what are you" question quite often and are able to assimilate quite well because people can't readily figure out "what they are"...and then they go home to their Black, Native American, Hispanic, etc. families.

No fuss over here. I found the OP to be a tad ridiculous and very naive so I never responded to her post, it was PincGator's posts I was responding to.

And for the bolded, you really don't know that. This girl seems to identify as white as well as having the assumption that in order to get into a house at Bama or Ol Miss you must be blonde haired, blue eyes and lilly white. Who knows what her reasoning is.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

It's dumb to say she wishes she was white especially since you really don't know her ethnic background (she may be more "white" than black). That's cool you're happy to be black (as you should be) but why waste the energy to get all butt hurt if someone of mixed race identifies as being more white than black?

It's awesome that you think it's cool and that he should be happy to be Black. Whoa. Thanks for the approval. Sure.

PincGator Que already said that he wasn't offended by what she said. He's simply opinionated over what she says. But I realize that Black people can't have an opinion on topics pertaining to race without being told we are getting all butt hurt.

Anyway, I agree with PincGator Que and Drolefille.