Jessica Schmessica...We got a royal wedding to look forward to! - Page 2

ForeverRoses · #1 11-17-2010, 01:42 PM

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Prince William and Kate Middleton are engaged. He gave her his mother's engagement ring. Any speculation on a wedding date?

I thought it was odd at first that he used his mother's engagement ring, since that marriage didn't turn out all that great, but then I heard his reason and thought it was sweet.

I remember watching Charles & Di and Andrew & Fergie get married. I'm sure I'll be up at the crack of dawn to watch this one too.

33girl · #2 11-17-2010, 01:53 PM

I think the only way Charles will get passed over is if Elizabeth outlives him (which is not out of the question at all).

The neat thing about William being king will be that FINALLY one of Charles II's descendants will be on the throne (albeit from his illegitimate kids - Diana has ties to two of them).

sigmadiva · #3 11-17-2010, 02:18 PM

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I think the only way Charles will get passed over is if Elizabeth outlives him (which is not out of the question at all).

The neat thing about William being king will be that FINALLY one of Charles II's descendants will be on the throne (albeit from his illegitimate kids - Diana has ties to two of them).

I know absolutely nothing about British royal lineage. Could you explain?

33girl · #4 11-17-2010, 03:18 PM

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I know absolutely nothing about British royal lineage. Could you explain?

Charles II was married but his wife never produced any kids. He did have a boatload of mistresses who DID reproduce. He duke-ified most of them, and Diana is descended from two of them.

King after Charles was his brother James, and then he was overthrown by his son-in-law. It was all because of the Protestant/Catholic tensions in England at the time.

sigmadiva · #5 11-17-2010, 03:41 PM

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Charles II was married but his wife never produced any kids. He did have a boatload of mistresses who DID reproduce. He duke-ified most of them, and Diana is descended from two of them.

King after Charles was his brother James, and then he was overthrown by his son-in-law. It was all because of the Protestant/Catholic tensions in England at the time.

Thanks!!!

I'm guessing all this happened back in the 1700's or something?

psusue · #6 11-17-2010, 04:06 PM

This is a lane swerve, but I am completely impressed by all of this royal knowledge of my fellow GCers. I feel educated.

BluPhire · #7 11-17-2010, 04:46 PM

Quick question, but this was inspired by my suit guy when buying a suit.

Americans, why are you so enthralled with royalty?

knight_shadow · #8 11-17-2010, 04:48 PM

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Quick question, but this was inspired by my suit guy when buying a suit.

Americans, why are you so enthralled with royalty?

Because we don't have an equivalent.

BluPhire · #9 11-17-2010, 04:53 PM

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Because we don't have an equivalent.

That was his joke, but he was serious about it.

His complete quote was, "Look for America to have fought so hard against the monarchy, we are so enthralled by them. Think about that when buying your suit and tie, and the particular occasion it is for, and what type of image you want to project when you walk into the room."

AlphaFrog · #10 11-17-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BluPhire

Quick question, but this was inspired by my suit guy when buying a suit.

Americans, why are you so enthralled with royalty?

Listen, I would take QEII over Obama any day. Charles, well....there would be discussion first.

BluPhire · #11 11-17-2010, 04:55 PM

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Listen, I would take QEII over Obama any day. Charles, well....there would be discussion first.

I care less about your politics, but if it is political reasons, I'll put you in the category of loving to be ruled by bloodline.

MysticCat · #12 11-17-2010, 05:13 PM

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Quick question, but this was inspired by my suit guy when buying a suit.

Americans, why are you so enthralled with royalty?

Why are Americans enthralled with celebrities generally? I think it's a specialized form of our celebrity-enthrallment, fed, as k_s says, by our not having an equivalent.

There's also the British-American connection involved -- it's really only British royalty we're so enthralled with. I mean, Quick! Someone name the heir to the Dutch or Swedish throne without looking it up.

Then there's the pageantry. We may not want all that to-do here, but there's no denying it can be fun to watch them do it; they do it better than anyone.

And finally, for some of us there are the historical connections and implications as well. I mean, they've been doing this for 1000+ years.

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Listen, I would take QEII over Obama any day. Charles, well....there would be discussion first.

Apples to oranges, though. She's a Head of State without being a Head of Government. An American president is both. You might feel differently if she was pushing a political agenda instead of having to stay above politics.

And as I type I think that may be another factor in American fascination with the British royalty. I think to a greater or lesser degree, many of us envy the idea of a nationally unifying figure (in theory at least; I know there are certainly those in Britain who'd prefer to abolish the monarchy) who is above politics. That's what we don't have. I've often thought that in some ways, the flag is the closest equivalent we have in that regard.

BluPhire · #13 11-17-2010, 05:21 PM

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Why are Americans enthralled with celebrities generally? I think it's a specialized form of our celebrity-enthrallment, fed, as k_s says, by our not having an equivalent.

There's also the British-American connection involved -- it's really only British royalty we're so enthralled with. I mean, Quick! Someone name the heir to the Dutch or Swedish throne without looking it up.

Then there's the pageantry. We may not want all that to-do here, but there's no denying it can be fun to watch them do it; they do it better than anyone.

And finally, for some of us there are the historical connections and implications as well. I mean, they've been doing this for 1000+ years.

That's one of the things I was explaining to my wife.

At one time Britain had their hand in everything in the world. They are better marketers.

I'm glad you brought up the star gazing, I wonder is it psychological. We don't have Kings and Queens but we have Hollywood and Camelot.

Tulip86 · #14 11-17-2010, 05:37 PM

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Someone name the heir to the Dutch or Swedish throne without looking it up.

Queen Beatrix van Oranje-Nassau is the current queen, Willem -alexander (to be named Wilhelm) is expected to take over in a few years. He'll be the first King in a century. He's married to Maxima Zorreguita (Argentinian) and has 3 young daughters: Amalia, Alexia and Ariane

Heir to the Swedish throne is newlywed Victoria (who is Amalia's godmother)

But I live in Europe

Munchkin03 · #15 11-17-2010, 06:06 PM

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Queen Beatrix van Oranje-Nassau is the current queen, Willem -alexander (to be named Wilhelm) is expected to take over in a few years. He'll be the first King in a century. He's married to Maxima Zorreguita (Argentinian) and has 3 young daughters: Amalia, Alexia and Ariane

Heir to the Swedish throne is newlywed Victoria (who is Amalia's godmother)

But I live in Europe

I actually knew the Dutch Queen because she's on the back of the Dutch Euro!