Schools with all locals orgs that went national

[PhoenixAzul]

Originally Posted by IrishLake

I didn't know that! Hubby has 2 cousins who were in one of the Locals at Capital (the one that goes by "Zetas" though they arent' ZTA). I wonder how they feel about that and if there will be options for alum? One of them served in a VP capacity, I'll have to ask her at Thanksgiving. I'm trying to think of Ohio colleges that have local-only greek life now. I know Otterbein and Heidelberg. Any others? Hiram maybe?

As far as I'm aware, there has never been a national (NPC) sorority at Otterbein. The boys, however, are a different story.

There was at one time, Alpha Tau Omega (who apparently lived in the house next to my sorority, which was the com building but is now security, and it was a fantastic house!) but I believe they were disbanded (or kicked out by the university) for some reason. Alpha Sigma Phi is currently on campus, and in recent years have been winning many Greek awards. I don't know what the conditions are now, but Alpha Sig was smaller when I pledged, but by the time I graduated was on par with the rest of the fraternities, if not bigger. They seem to be thriving, but I'm sure that it is a challenge to be the only national in a local campus. As far as I know, they were formed from an interest group, not from taking over another fraternity, but I can't be 100% sure.

I get kind of nervous when I see other schools transitioning their systems to NPCs, especially Capital (Otterbein's big rival). I know that local greek life has its own issues (so do national greeks), but I think it is the uniqueness of it that really pulled me in. We have wacky, silly, ridiculous traditions, some that reach way back to our 1921 founding, some that are from our re-founding in the 80's, and it makes it a fascinating organization to be part of. One group on campus celebrated 100 years this homecoming! That's an old local!

I think that it helps that the Greek alum disproportionally support the school in comparison with other sections of the graduate population...I think that if there was an ultimatum put forward, that there would be hell to pay...at least I would hope so. It's a weird little world up there in Westerville, and I really hope it stays that way. The school has been doing a lot of big things lately, transitioning to a University, and then transitioning to semesters soon. I think that change is healthy and good for a college, but I hope things don't change too much.

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Why is it that OH is such a hotbed of locals?

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by PhoenixAzul

I get kind of nervous when I see other schools transitioning their systems to NPCs, especially Capital (Otterbein's big rival). I know that local greek life has its own issues (so do national greeks), but I think it is the uniqueness of it that really pulled me in. We have wacky, silly, ridiculous traditions, some that reach way back to our 1921 founding, some that are from our re-founding in the 80's, and it makes it a fascinating organization to be part of. One group on campus celebrated 100 years this homecoming! That's an old local!

I think, like so many things these days, it boils down to risk management. Universities want a national HQ to share the responsibility for what their groups are doing on that campus.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I think, like so many things these days, it boils down to risk management. Universities want a national HQ to share the responsibility for what their groups are doing on that campus.

Well, that goes both ways. They also give up their right to close down or discipline a chapter whenever and however they see fit - without a fight from a national.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Well, that goes both ways. They also give up their right to close down or discipline a chapter whenever and however they see fit - without a fight from a national.

Depends, generally as a student org they sign on to specific rules. I don't see a lot of HQs fighting universities on disciplinary issues. Not that it never happens, but far more often than not it seems HQ goes along with suspensions and other punishments along with adding their own.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Depends, generally as a student org they sign on to specific rules. I don't see a lot of HQs fighting universities on disciplinary issues. Not that it never happens, but far more often than not it seems HQ goes along with suspensions and other punishments along with adding their own.

It actually happens more often than you'd think. Especially where fraternities are concerned.

There are also things that groups might do that the school might find antithetical to its mission (and therefore discipline them for) that really aren't RM or other factors for a national. Also some schools do not want to go along with the NPC/NIC methods of rush and membership selection. I realize there's a lot of wiggle room, but even with that it can get to the point where it's a pain in the ass for chapters trying to explain their rush and why it just isn't like Ole Miss's.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

It actually happens more often than you'd think. Especially where fraternities are concerned.

There are also things that groups might do that the school might find antithetical to its mission (and therefore discipline them for) that really aren't RM or other factors for a national. Also some schools do not want to go along with the NPC/NIC methods of rush and membership selection. I realize there's a lot of wiggle room, but even with that it can get to the point where it's a pain in the ass for chapters trying to explain their rush and why it just isn't like Ole Miss's.

I'm talking about the majority of cases unless there are actual numbers somewhere. I acknowledge it happens, I just contend that it is relatively rare.

[33girl]

I was referring in part to some of the religiously based colleges that I highly doubt will ever go national.