Who is attending the National Convention 2010 (Atlanta)

[mastratton]

Originally Posted by naraht

For example, how a section chair can designate an alternate for Convention and which states are in which convention regions (To me this boils down to the question as to whether the National Board should have the ability to move Wyoming from West to North Convention regions. )

Well, that certainly isn't why this is being proposed - we may (as a Fraternity) find that the current rotation schedule doesn't work, or should be modified or whatever. Certainly, under the provisions of the proposed language for the Fraternity Operations and Policy Manual, the Board *could * amend that policy (assuming it's moved from the bylaws to the FOPM), but I don't know that anyone is actually suggesting that it be changed (I certainly am not._ And, of course, if by some chance the Board were to move or change the rotation schedule, the Convention (again, under the provisions of the proposed language) could simply change that policy.

It really is, to me, a technical issue, and of course, you'll note that the selection of the convention city is still the prerogrative of the National Convention. I only proposed this item to the Board because it seemed to be a technical issue and could use some flexibility if needed (that the bylaws don't allow.)

I'd hope it would pass but, honestly, the sun won't rise or set on the adoption/rejection of this particular portion of the larger amendment.

--Mark

[naraht]

Originally Posted by mastratton

Well, that certainly isn't why this is being proposed - we may (as a Fraternity) find that the current rotation schedule doesn't work, or should be modified or whatever. Certainly, under the provisions of the proposed language for the Fraternity Operations and Policy Manual, the Board *could * amend that policy (assuming it's moved from the bylaws to the FOPM), but I don't know that anyone is actually suggesting that it be changed (I certainly am not._ And, of course, if by some chance the Board were to move or change the rotation schedule, the Convention (again, under the provisions of the proposed language) could simply change that policy.

It really is, to me, a technical issue, and of course, you'll note that the selection of the convention city is still the prerogrative of the National Convention. I only proposed this item to the Board because it seemed to be a technical issue and could use some flexibility if needed (that the bylaws don't allow.)

I'd hope it would pass but, honestly, the sun won't rise or set on the adoption/rejection of this particular portion of the larger amendment.

--Mark

The question in terms of the changes to the Manual is whether the convention can change them and have the effects occur before the end of convention. For example: The National Board moves everything out of the Western Convention region except for Elko, Nevada. Can the Convention change the region back to what it was prior to voting on whether it goes to Seattle or Portland?

The way that the section chairs can replace themselves at convention is probably a better example to use when explaining this, simply because it is even more obscure.

I doubt even the people who put the amendment together would be all that depressed if it didn't pass. The one that the sun will rise (and set) over is the Alumni Association membership policy amendment.*

(Putting it in singular because even though three are being sent to reference committee, my honest guess is that only one will come out, but the people who proposed the ones that don't come out will support the one that does).

[mastratton]

Originally Posted by naraht

The question in terms of the changes to the Manual is whether the convention can change them and have the effects occur before the end of convention. For example: The National Board moves everything out of the Western Convention region except for Elko, Nevada. Can the Convention change the region back to what it was prior to voting on whether it goes to Seattle or Portland?

The way that the section chairs can replace themselves at convention is probably a better example to use when explaining this, simply because it is even more obscure.

I doubt even the people who put the amendment together would be all that depressed if it didn't pass. The one that the sun will rise (and set) over is the Alumni Association membership policy amendment.*

(Putting it in singular because even though three are being sent to reference committee, my honest guess is that only one will come out, but the people who proposed the ones that don't come out will support the one that does).

Well, I certainly hope the larger amendment passes, even if this particular section doesn't! :-)

But, to your question, I think changes to the FOPM can take effect immediately upon adoption (just like amendments to the bylaws can.) There's no reason they can't.

Mark

[naraht]

Originally Posted by mastratton

Well, I certainly hope the larger amendment passes, even if this particular section doesn't! :-)

But, to your question, I think changes to the FOPM can take effect immediately upon adoption (just like amendments to the bylaws can.) There's no reason they can't.

Mark

I thought bylaw changes didn't take place until the convention is officially closed, but I yield to your greater knowledge...