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Old 10-13-2010, 06:40 PM
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On that note, are gossip columnists bullies?
Meh. I'm torn.

When dealing with children -- I think so.

When dealing with adults -- Celebrities are pretty much "public domain," so satire/mockery/parody comes with the territory. If we were to call gossip columnists bullies, we'd have to call SNL, MadTV, etc bullies as well.
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Old 10-13-2010, 06:50 PM
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Meh. I'm torn.

When dealing with children -- I think so.

When dealing with adults -- Celebrities are pretty much "public domain," so satire/mockery/parody comes with the territory. If we were to call gossip columnists bullies, we'd have to call SNL, MadTV, etc bullies as well.
Gossip is different than satire/mockery/parody.
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Old 10-13-2010, 06:54 PM
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Gossip is different than satire/mockery/parody.
True, but a lot of the satire/mockery/parody originates with gossip.

ETA: Ex. I think that if we didn't have the Perez Hiltons of the world blatantly saying "Clay Aiken is in the closet!" we'd still have SNL skits showing Clay with subtle mannerisms/a lisp.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:08 PM
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ETA: Ex. I think that if we didn't have the Perez Hiltons of the world blatantly saying "Clay Aiken is in the closet!" we'd still have SNL skits showing Clay with subtle mannerisms/a lisp.
I agree. So, where are the margins? There have to be margins or else we wouldn't have a thread about bullying and cyberbullying. Are there no margins when we're talking about adults and especially celebrities?
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:18 PM
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I agree. So, where are the margins? There have to be margins or else we wouldn't have a thread about bullying and cyberbullying. Are there no margins when we're talking about adults and especially celebrities?
I'd be interested in seeing others' thoughts.

I was never bullied, never was a bully, and I have a very "hard" exterior, so I'm probably not a good person to ask lol I can understand why bullying sucks, but I still don't fully "get it" when it comes to adults.

Now that I think of it, when I referred to "social media spillover" earlier in this thread, I was referring more to stalking. "Bullying" (as I know it) shouldn't affect grown folks (I know that this is definitely not the case, but I can't fully wrap my mind around it).
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:23 PM
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Now that I think of it, when I referred to "social media spillover" earlier in this thread, I was referring more to stalking. "Bullying" (as I know it) shouldn't affect grown folks (I know that this is definitely not the case, but I can't fully wrap my mind around it).
Stalking and bullying are not that different when you think of the instances where bullies were also stalkers.

LOL @ your "hard" exterior
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:26 PM
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Stalking and bullying are not that different when you think of the instances where bullies were also stalkers.

LOL @ your "hard" exterior
I was thinking in the most literal sense.

Bullying = Give me your lunch money; OMG Sally's a whore; HAHA Rick's gay

Stalking = Climbing in your window, snatching your people up, etc

I see the overlap, though.

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Old 10-22-2010, 04:33 PM
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I'd be interested in seeing others' thoughts.

I was never bullied, never was a bully, and I have a very "hard" exterior, so I'm probably not a good person to ask lol I can understand why bullying sucks, but I still don't fully "get it" when it comes to adults.

Now that I think of it, when I referred to "social media spillover" earlier in this thread, I was referring more to stalking. "Bullying" (as I know it) shouldn't affect grown folks (I know that this is definitely not the case, but I can't fully wrap my mind around it).
So no one ever picked on you in school? Really? And I don't know why it's so hard for you to imagine adults being bullied. In abusive relationships for example, aren't the victims being bullied? Being bullied has no age limit.
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Old 10-22-2010, 04:53 PM
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So no one ever picked on you in school? Really? And I don't know why it's so hard for you to imagine adults being bullied. In abusive relationships for example, aren't the victims being bullied? Being bullied has no age limit.
1. When I think "bullying," I think of it as a recurring event (John Doe gets picked on every day when he walks into school). Sure, I have seen people give me looks (beginning of HS, as I was "the new kid -- never before that and not during the end of HS), but because of my body type and demeanor, it never went beyond that.

2. I wasn't thinking in term of domestic abuse. I was thinking bullying in social settings. It's hard for me to wrap my mind around HOW adults let themselves get bullied (read: social situations), but I don't deny that it happens. If we're throwing domestic abuse into the equation, then I agree, bullying has no age limit.
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