Cyberbullying

knight_shadow · #1 10-12-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile

IMHO, cyberbullying is different in one major respect. Some kid might be a real nut job, and get bullied at school. The bullies might even follow him on the school bus or follow him home.

But with cyberbullying, there's no escape. Go home, watch some tv, and boot up to do homework & see what's going on on the internet and wham! There it is again. The bullies that the kid knows have now influenced total strangers to jump in on him, and it's relentless. Sooner or later, the bullies get the cell phone number, and now that's ruined, too. It's not a matter of turning off the computer or screening the calls, because let's face it, even Wikipedia has bastardized articles that the kid might have to use to do his homework. I would imagine that this same kid has bad dreams, so there is literally no escaping the harrassment.

I can see that, but I'm sure we all know that bullying doesn't stop at the end of the day. The kid may have a break tonight, but it goes right back into effect tomorrow.

The cyber-victim's escape could be not turning on the conmputer/visiting social media sites.

Alumiyum · #2 10-13-2010, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I can see that, but I'm sure we all know that bullying doesn't stop at the end of the day. The kid may have a break tonight, but it goes right back into effect tomorrow.

The cyber-victim's escape could be not turning on the conmputer/visiting social media sites.

Maybe. But they also know that the entire world can see what's written about them. Whereas a kid that got harassed in high school could look forward to at least getting to start fresh in college before online harassment, now those facebook/myspace pages about them follow them around...and if their bullies are really resourceful and move on to internet sites that won't take harassment down if reported, it's there forever.

als463 · #3 10-13-2010, 10:17 AM

This idea of cyber-bullying is disturbing, to me. I don't mean the whole, "So-and-so hurt my feelings on GC, FB, or MS." I mean the, "Let's go on such-and-such website, which features particular schools, and make an entire thread about how so-and-so is such a whore and has STDs." That bothers me that people can just go to (that site) and do that.

Sure, people on here may not agree with one another but, no one (and I truly believe NO ONE) would start a thread about how als463 is a woman of the night or a bigot. I mean, people can do that on FB and MS, though. When people start posting your name, address, phone number, job info, etc. then it is a problem.

Also, WHAT THE HELL to that woman who said that horrible stuff about a 7 year-old? I bet that woman feels remorse. Maybe she feels remorse because she was getting death threats. That woman and her husband are the definition of pure trash. Just wow.

DrPhil · #4 10-13-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by als463

Sure, people on here may not agree with one another but, no one (and I truly believe NO ONE) would start a thread about how als463 is a woman of the night or a bigot.

You stole my thread idea!

/back to the seriousness of this thread

33girl · #5 03-30-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Maybe. But they also know that the entire world can see what's written about them. Whereas a kid that got harassed in high school could look forward to at least getting to start fresh in college before online harassment, now those facebook/myspace pages about them follow them around...and if their bullies are really resourceful and move on to internet sites that won't take harassment down if reported, it's there forever.

Major difference between bullying then vs bullying now.

In 1985, if Jack got bullied every single day at his HS in NY State, he could choose to go to boarding school in Virginia or college in Oregon. Yes he would have to deal with those assholes when he came home to visit, but for the most part, his day to day (and the rest of his life) would be pretty much free of them if he chose to make it so.

Whereas in 2010, Jack's roommate to be, the guys in the fraternity he's rushing, and the girl he wants to date can Google him and see the "Jack is a dweeb" page that some dickhead made back in 2008. No matter how much those people think that the sort of person who does such a thing is a useless idiot and has Jack completely wrong...that "Jack is a dweeb" is still going to stick in the back of their brain, and prevent Jack from getting a truly new beginning.

I read an article in Allure many moons ago about a woman who had major dental issues and was tormented mercilessly as a kid. She said the worst taunt was being told "You're so ugly you'll never get married" - because they were trashing not just her present but telling her she had nothing to look forward to in the future as well.

als463 · #6 10-13-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I can see that, but I'm sure we all know that bullying doesn't stop at the end of the day. The kid may have a break tonight, but it goes right back into effect tomorrow.

The cyber-victim's escape could be not turning on the conmputer/visiting social media sites.

While I do agree that the cyber-victim could escape by not turning on the computer or visiting social media sites, we have to look at how that is victim-blaming. Sure, they could stop going on FB, MS or whatever but, why should they have to because someone else is acting like an a-hole. I'm not talking about going on a forum like GC. I'm talking about FB (which seems to be a major part of everyone's form of communication these days-like texting). Why should someone else suffer because they are being harassed? That's like saying a kid who gets bullied at school could just quit school, switch schools, or wait for college. Why should it have to be that way?

I do see what you were saying and I know that's not how you meant it.

agzg · #7 10-13-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by als463

While I do agree that the cyber-victim could escape by not turning on the computer or visiting social media sites, we have to look at how that is victim-blaming.

Right it kindof reminds me of the "buyer's remorse" DA in Colorado that's running for office, but with a different crime.

Drolefille · #8 10-13-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by agzg

Right it kindof reminds me of the "buyer's remorse" DA in Colorado that's running for office, but with a different crime.

Oh don't even get me started on him. The rapist even admitted on the phone to the victim that it was rape and he STILL doesn't think there's enough evidence.

als463 · #9 10-13-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Oh don't even get me started on him. The rapist even admitted on the phone to the victim that it was rape and he STILL doesn't think there's enough evidence.

Off Topic: If you have the video about this, that would be good to post. Being from PA (originally) and living in NY, I have no idea what you are talking about. Please share.

Now, back to the thread.

agzg · #10 10-13-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Oh don't even get me started on him. The rapist even admitted on the phone to the victim that it was rape and he STILL doesn't think there's enough evidence.

Well I heard the tape was inadmissible because the suspect didn't know he was being recorded or something.

Drolefille · #11 10-13-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by als463

Off Topic: If you have the video about this, that would be good to post. Being from PA (originally) and living in NY, I have no idea what you are talking about. Please share.

Now, back to the thread.

Don't know if there's video but why would being from PA or living in NY keep you from knowing about something in CO?

Google Ken Buck and "buyer's remorse" you'll find pretty much everything.

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Originally Posted by agzg

Well I heard the tape was inadmissible because the suspect didn't know he was being recorded or something.

Dunno, but you know, she really wanted it because she was drunk! Us women and our slutty ways or something stupid like that.

als463 · #12 10-13-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Don't know if there's video but why would being from PA or living in NY keep you from knowing about something in CO?

Google Ken Buck and "buyer's remorse" you'll find pretty much everything.

Dunno, but you know, she really wanted it because she was drunk! Us women and our slutty ways or something stupid like that.

You'll have to excuse me for not keeping up with what is going on in CO. I also don't get much time to watch television, anymore. I literally work 7 days a week. Maybe I should have said THAT instead of about where I live in regards to not hearing about it.

agzg · #13 10-13-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Don't know if there's video but why would being from PA or living in NY keep you from knowing about something in CO?

Google Ken Buck and "buyer's remorse" you'll find pretty much everything.

Dunno, but you know, she really wanted it because she was drunk! Us women and our slutty ways or something stupid like that.

Didn't you know? She invited him over! And she had had sex with him before! Obviously an invitation into my home is ALSO an invitation into my vagina!

Ugh. People get buyer's remorse when they get a bad haircut, or a meal they don't like in a restaurant. They don't get buyer's remorse when someone else puts their penis where it doesn't belong.

/endrant.

knight_shadow · #14 10-13-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by als463

I do see what you were saying and I know that's not how you meant it.

Yea, I didn't mean that the "cyber-victim" had a complete escape. I just meant that could be his/her "break" for the day, similar to a "real life" victim's break (being at home).

Basically playing devil's advocate for a moment. I still think bullying that spills over into real life sucks.

als463 · #15 10-13-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Yea, I didn't mean that the "cyber-victim" had a complete escape. I just meant that could be his/her "break" for the day, similar to a "real life" victim's break (being at home).

Basically playing devil's advocate for a moment. I still think bullying that spills over into real life sucks.

I agree. It's like, imagine if you really upset me (let's just say) and you called me a racist...could you imagine me coming to your place of employment and bothering you....like stalking you? I mean, really? What is wrong with people? People do stuff like that, though.