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Originally Posted by Drolefille
I don't think there's enough evidence to support the idea that Jesus was the son of God. I don't even think that Jesus's own words support that he considered himself to be so. I think he was an apocalyptic preacher. He said some awesome things, he said some not quite so awesome things. I'm also fairly certain that even if he were the son of God, present day Christians wouldn't recognize him or his teachings if he walked up to them on Sunday.
I have no idea what is out there as far as a deity or deities. I find I pray to "God" more out of habit than actual belief, and a pagan friend's use of "Goddess" slips in and out of my vocabulary but not really skimming my belief system.
I don't know what kind of afterlife there is, if any. The idea of none doesn't scare me nor does the idea of hell ala frodobaggins. No deity so restrictive deserves my attention, and total absence from Him/Her/It is hardly a loss.
The idea of "shopping" for a new religion is repelling. It seems utterly insincere. I've always educated myself on multiple religions but none seems to resonate with me, and if it didn't strike that inner tone in the first place then it wouldn't really be true to me anyway.
I don't tell my family because it would be a horrible disappointment, but then I hide quite a few things from them beyond that anyway. I can't associate, even in name only, with a Church that would watch children be molested, people with HIV infect others, women die in childbirth, and allow it to continue in the name of preserving church teachings over all else. Even so, I'll probably be there at Christmas Eve mass. :-/
I've learned from a lot of the Catholic theologians, and gleaned from other Christian theologians, and while I can appreciate their contributions to the field of ethics among others, I can't really say that I agree with any of them on the moral/theological aspects at this point. I'm interested in reading non-Western works, but I lack the context to put it together. I'm not getting enough out of the Quran I'm browsing on my Droid for example, I need a textbook-like analysis.
There, philosophical enough for ya?
(TL;DR Hi, I'm agnostic. Or indecisive. I guess.)
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Isn't that the point of Faith?
Substance of things hoped for, evidence of things not seen.
(I'm just getting it started since this thread has turned into a liberal lovefest of Theology. Somebody has to take the dissenting opinion
on things)
Okay Theology is a broad topic and if you want to discuss theology then of course from a Theological POV, none of the Holy scrpts make any sense. The issue is though why if the finite mind trying to prove the infinite and saying " See I told you."
It's like with
THEORY of evolution. Has enough circumstantial evidence, to be believable, but not enough evidence to prove.
Still looking for that missing link.
Okay, in my own personal words and in all seriousness, discussing Theology is boring. I can quote the back and forths of the doctrines of a religion and what not, but what defines your faith? Those who said they believe God and have a personal relationship outside the church, I ask you how? What God do you serve? Is it the God of the Bible, or the God of your own creation?
When you say Jesus, is it the Jesus of the Bible, of your fantasy of Jesus?
When you answer those questions, that's when it can get real interesting.
Those of you that are athiest, where does it come from.
Agnostics...pick a side...Okay I'm just kidding with you, but you get the point.
ITT let's talk faith.
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