African American women in CPC, opinions, please?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

I think it's a good idea. There are women of color in sororities all around the country, and if this school needs a little nudge by having two eminently qualified women serve as a springboard to understanding, that's great.

I assume you mean NPC sororities because it goes without saying that there are racial and ethnic minority women in NPHC, MCGLO, and LGLO sororities around the country. Therefore, what does having an NPHCer help with recruitment have to do with the relatively small % of racial and ethnic minority women in NPC orgs around the country?

In fact, it looks silly that the the NPC needs an NPHCer because it couldn't find a racial and ethnic minority NPCer to mirror the supposed "women of color in (NPC) sororities all around the country" that people keep claiming.

[Gusteau]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

In fact, it looks silly that the the NPC needs an NPHCer because it couldn't find a racial and ethnic minority NPCer to mirror the supposed "women of color in (NPC) sororities all around the country" that people keep claiming.

Exactly, didn't anyone at the school think that the action would highlight the issue even more?

Furthermore, how does having women from a vastly different council as recruitment counselors benefit the PNM?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Gusteau

Exactly, didn't anyone at the school think that the action would highlight the issue even more?

I agree. I know an older NPHCer (she wasn't a student) who worked for Greek Life and advised the NPC. She wasn't a recruitment counselor but her experience highlights what we're talking about.

She absolutely LOVED working with the NPC and it was a breath of fresh air from working with the NPHC, which was too familiar for her. One thing that she always noticed was that she was either the only nonwhite woman everywhere she went for the NPC; or she was one of only a few nonwhite women. And these were pretty big chapters. That's not bad in and of itself because I firmly believe that most of our GLOs have the racial and ethnic composition that we were formally and informally intended to have. Plus, we don't have a whole lot of "other race" interestees and applicants, therefore, it is usually not an issue of people being discriminated against.

But, it was funny because her presence highlighted the lack thereof. The nonwhite NPCers definitely latched onto her. The white NPCers loved her but everyone knew that there weren't any or many women in their chapters who "looked" like her. It became a topic quite often.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Gusteau

Exactly, didn't anyone at the school think that the action would highlight the issue even more?

Furthermore, how does having women from a vastly different council as recruitment counselors benefit the PNM?

This is what I was thinking. It's one thing for us (as NPC groups) to require our own members to learn our formal recruitment rules and serve as advisors to PNMs - first off I feel like that's a lot to ask of someone that's from a different council. NPC members *should* know that stuff anyway (and I know they don't).

Second, I'd like to know if the NPHC women disaffiliated like an NPC member would - I don't know how I would feel if I loved my Rho Gamma and thought MAYBE I would end up in her chapter and then found out that not only is she not in the chapter I joined, she's not even in the same council.

For what it's worth, I don't like the idea of NIC members recruiting for NPC sororities or NPC women attending NPHC interest meetings either. When it's something that's oh-so-specific to a certain council, it should be done by members of that council only, particularly with things as important as recruitment.