Alledged Sexual Harrassment complaint on jets, followed by Clinton Portis comments

[FSUZeta]

she does not look like a professional reporter. i don't agree with her being harassed, but she needs to get a clue. yesterday afternoon i began hearing a different story from her. she was saying that the boys were just joking and they weren't harassing her, just making jokes and that it was another female reporter who was offended and made the initial complaint.

i think the nfl, nba,etc. just need to ban all reporters from the locker room. they can't just ban women, so it will have to be a mass ban.

frankly, the network she works for seems to be promoting her as a sex object/centerfold, and that's just wrong.

[VandalSquirrel]

I don't care what gender someone is, I don't want strangers with recording devices in my area when i'm changing, bathing, and coming off a win or loss. I don't particularly find her outfits appropriate for a journalist, and she wouldn't be allowed to wear that ensemble if she worked in my office either. The heels are questionable, the cleavage and bare midriff are out, and the pants are way too tight as well as being light hued denim.

What is wrong with a reception area where the media can kick it and let people show up when they are clean and respect the privacy of the rest of the team?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

she does not look like a professional reporter. i don't agree with her being harassed, but she needs to get a clue. yesterday afternoon i began hearing a different story from her. she was saying that the boys were just joking and they weren't harassing her, just making jokes and that it was another female reporter who was offended and made the initial complaint.

i think the nfl, nba,etc. just need to ban all reporters from the locker room. they can't just ban women, so it will have to be a mass ban.

frankly, the network she works for seems to be promoting her as a sex object/centerfold, and that's just wrong.

Right.

My question too is, is she allowing this? because again, she doesn't strike me as a credible journalist (if I remember she asked Tom Brady how he plans on beating the Jets in the Super Bowl, heh!) and some of the reports I have seen show her 'not reporting' so uhh, really?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

she does not look like a professional reporter. i don't agree with her being harassed, but she needs to get a clue. yesterday afternoon i began hearing a different story from her. she was saying that the boys were just joking and they weren't harassing her, just making jokes and that it was another female reporter who was offended and made the initial complaint.

i think the nfl, nba,etc. just need to ban all reporters from the locker room. they can't just ban women, so it will have to be a mass ban.

frankly, the network she works for seems to be promoting her as a sex object/centerfold, and that's just wrong.

From the beginning she said that she wasn't offended and that she didn't feel at risk in the locker room. The complaint was made by another journalist that witnessed the event that included Rex Ryan and his staff throwing footballs near her to get her attention.

While I think that having reporters in the locker room at all is ridiculous, it is how reporting has been done since the beginning of the NFL, and the Supreme Court has already ruled on this one. These guys make a lot of money, and part of the job is appropriately dealing with the press. Unless they want to continue to see these kinds of stories, they need to learn to shut up while an attractive woman is near them. They can rehash it all when she walks out the room. Their rights to free speech end when they infringe on the working woman who just wants to get an interview.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

While I think that having reporters in the locker room at all is ridiculous, it is how reporting has been done since the beginning of the NFL, and the Supreme Court has already ruled on this one. These guys make a lot of money, and part of the job is appropriately dealing with the press. Unless they want to continue to see these kinds of stories, they need to learn to shut up while an attractive woman is near them. They can rehash it all when she walks out the room. Their rights to free speech end when they infringe on the working woman who just wants to get an interview.

People tend to give men a pass as though they are uncontrollable idiots.

The coach staff should've told the players at the beginning of the season that there will be male and female reporters in the locker room, at which time they will cover themselves up and be respectful to the reporters regardless of anything else.

The onus is on the coaches and men in the locker room. The female reporter who is perceivably "scantily clad" bears some responsibility in how she's received. But, the onus is not on her.

I disagree with people who say that women shouldn't be in locker rooms. Most sports reports and locker room interviews are conducted on male athletes. Female locker room interviews are a lot less common just as female sports are less popular. If female reporters were relegated to female locker rooms, that would shape access to sports news opportunities and potentially shape promotions and pay for male reporters as compared to female reporters. Discrimination is based on outcome and not intent. Therefore, having female reporters who have a difficulty in finding job leads would have a discriminatory effect even if the intent seemed honest and fair.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

From the beginning she said that she wasn't offended and that she didn't feel at risk in the locker room. The complaint was made by another journalist that witnessed the event that included Rex Ryan and his staff throwing footballs near her to get her attention.

While I think that having reporters in the locker room at all is ridiculous, it is how reporting has been done since the beginning of the NFL, and the Supreme Court has already ruled on this one. These guys make a lot of money, and part of the job is appropriately dealing with the press. Unless they want to continue to see these kinds of stories, they need to learn to shut up while an attractive woman is near them. They can rehash it all when she walks out the room. Their rights to free speech end when they infringe on the working woman who just wants to get an interview.

Wait wait waaaaait. Why do the men have to learn to shut up?

Hmmm...I agree and disagree with the statement.

I think there still has to be some accountability on both sides. I mean, again, men should not make those kinds of comments but at the same time, knowing what kind of atmosphere that she is entering, a men's locker room, what she wears may deter them or goad them on.

And her just wanting to get an interview? HHHHHmmmmmm.

Now, I got a question, when can the playing field be evened and male reporters be allowed to interview, say...WNBA players in their locker rooms?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Wait wait waaaaait. Why do the men have to learn to shut up?

Hmmm...I agree and disagree with the statement.

I think there still has to be some accountability on both sides. I mean, again, men should not make those kinds of comments but at the same time, knowing what kind of atmosphere that she is entering, a men's locker room, what she wears may deter them or goad them on.

When it comes to gender dynamics, males are the dominant majority. That means that their response can have a big impact on social interactions and there are instances when men need to shut up and act like they aren't moved by certain things. Or, notice it but quickly move on (since men aren't animals who can't control themselves). That is even moreso the case when we're talking about men with lots of (undeserved and overpaid) money.

The same goes for white people when talking about race, heterosexual people when talking about sexual orientation, and so on and so forth. There are times when the power majority needs to SHUT UP both literally and figuratively. It is important to note that there is a gender, race, and social class dynamic in these locker rooms that helps to fuel interactions in terms of privilege and overcompensating for a lack of privilege (i.e. Black males who suddenly get billy badass because they can throw a damn ball).

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Now, I got a question, when can the playing field be evened and male reporters be allowed to interview, say...WNBA players in their locker rooms?

When there is no gender or sexual orientation-based discomfort in the interactions and everyone has an understanding of what can and cannot occur in those interactions. If that happens today then it can begin today.