A very dressy FLORIDA STATE recruitment!

[BraveMaroon]

Maybe I'm completely out of touch, and if I am, I'm sure you'll tell me - but this story and the one from other young woman at FSU make me think that maybe something could be reworked on this campus?

I mean, from the outside, it sounds like there are plenty of women who want to be in a sorority, but aren't, for whatever reason getting chosen. Grades? OK, that's one thing. But rejected because you aren't a Freshman? I don't get it.

But the fact that a new colony has space for 170 and has 360 interested (and presumably mostly qualified) applicants? It sounds to me that supply is not meeting demand. Which, at least to me, says that they might want to take a long hard look at things.

It just seems a little lopsided.

Am I oversimplifying? Probably - but it's stories like this that make me feel bad about the system I'm a part of.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

This is such a bummer! It is certainly easier as a bystander to say hey, you screwed up, you didn't consider all of your options, whatever, but for both of these gals, they seemed to do everything right, have the attitude, the ambition, and courtesy that should have been just what any of the sororities would want. I just wish I could hug both of them and tell them it will all be ok. At least PNM and PPT have each other and they know they aren't going through this alone. But that's not much consolation! I'm so sorry.

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

What she said. It's really a shame when a system has no place for such open-minded, motivated PNMs.

Originally Posted by BraveMaroon

Maybe I'm completely out of touch, and if I am, I'm sure you'll tell me - but this story and the one from other young woman at FSU make me think that maybe something could be reworked on this campus?

I mean, from the outside, it sounds like there are plenty of women who want to be in a sorority, but aren't, for whatever reason getting chosen. Grades? OK, that's one thing. But rejected because you aren't a Freshman? I don't get it.

But the fact that a new colony has space for 170 and has 360 interested (and presumably mostly qualified) applicants? It sounds to me that supply is not meeting demand. Which, at least to me, says that they might want to take a long hard look at things.

It just seems a little lopsided.

Am I oversimplifying? Probably - but it's stories like this that make me feel bad about the system I'm a part of.

I know that everyone is hurting for these women, and trust me I am too. It sucks to be in that situation.

However, it really is just a case of having more wonderful applicants than you can take. It happens everywhere where there is a large scale colonization such as this one.

Colony numbers are determined by average chapter size at that school. It's not some arbitrary number that is just made up, and it's not determined by "supply/demand." It's the size that Panhellenic and APhi decided would make for a strong chapter.

I dunno, I just don't want people going the wrong way here and assertng that Alpha Phi is somehow in the wrong for not taking on more women.

[BraveMaroon]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I dunno, I just don't want people going the wrong way here and assertng that Alpha Phi is somehow in the wrong for not taking on more women.

Actually, I lob that assertion not against Alpha Phi, or any specific house on that campus - I would say that Greek Life at FSU may want to reconsider house totals, but I'm certainly not saying that any one house is doing something wrong - I think they're all following rules, and that's fine.

But I can't see any reason why, for girls who are willing to "maximize their options", there shouldn't be a bid somewhere.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by BraveMaroon

Actually, I lob that assertion not against Alpha Phi, or any specific house on that campus - I would say that Greek Life at FSU may want to reconsider house totals

House totals have absolutely nothing to do with this. The sororities are allowed to go over total (sometimes WAY WAY over total) when the quota system is used. Girls who maximize their options DO usually end up with bids. "Maximize your options" does not mean the sororities cannot cut women along the way. That's their right. There's one school that we know of that has guaranteed bidding and basically what happens at the end is that there are PNMs everyone has tried to drop, and one or the other sorority has to suck it up and take them. Would you want to receive a bid in that manner? I know I wouldn't.

And I hate to say it, but if yinz think this is messy and unfair - wait till next fall and DG at UA. I wouldn't be surprised if they have almost as many girls coming out for that colony as they do for rush, period.

PNM at FSU - I'm sorry that you were disappointed.