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Old 09-11-2010, 10:32 PM
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Were these charges made by your school or your national headquarters? If these are from the school, does your national organization back you? I'll approach this from the standpoint of the school issuing this. Is this the only trouble your group has been in? I have doubts that if the school automatically defaulted to a 10 year suspension you guys didn't have other serious issues in the past.

To answer your question:

'Reforming' the current members is not an option. This will not happen. The culture is already in the members.

In my opinion, the best thing to do is negotiating with the school to leave campus for 4 years, until all current members graduate, and then request to have your national headquarters come in and do recruitment. Also bump up community service and campus involvement.

But in all honesty, the attitude I get from your post is that the things that happened are not a serious hazing issue and the school is overreacting. If this is how you come across to the school, good luck having a future at the campus. If the school doesn't feel like there is cooperation, they will make sure you don't return (One fraternity that was suspended from my campus would have to, literally, kill the Greek Life Advisor and Judicial Affairs Head to get back onto campus now because of how the group is acting post-suspension)
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:50 PM
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Were these charges made by your school or your national headquarters? If these are from the school, does your national organization back you? I'll approach this from the standpoint of the school issuing this. Is this the only trouble your group has been in? I have doubts that if the school automatically defaulted to a 10 year suspension you guys didn't have other serious issues in the past.

To answer your question:

'Reforming' the current members is not an option. This will not happen. The culture is already in the members.

In my opinion, the best thing to do is negotiating with the school to leave campus for 4 years, until all current members graduate, and then request to have your national headquarters come in and do recruitment. Also bump up community service and campus involvement.

But in all honesty, the attitude I get from your post is that the things that happened are not a serious hazing issue and the school is overreacting. If this is how you come across to the school, good luck having a future at the campus. If the school doesn't feel like there is cooperation, they will make sure you don't return (One fraternity that was suspended from my campus would have to, literally, kill the Greek Life Advisor and Judicial Affairs Head to get back onto campus now because of how the group is acting post-suspension)
I don't know if this was made clear in this thread, but this chapter is a local fraternity, so there are no nationals to come in and help with recruitment. Just the local/recent alumni.

The current ruling (4 year suspension) also comes with the caveat that the IFC and the Greek Life office will be required to work with the chapter to overhaul its New Member Education program and its Initiation Rituals.
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