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Old 09-09-2010, 04:21 PM
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...we need to separate based on the content coming out of the mouth, not the way they express themselves.
Both the content coming out of their mouths and the way they express themselves. They are related.
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:47 PM
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Both the content coming out of their mouths and the way they express themselves. They are related.
I understand, I just disagree.

And maybe it is the term I used that causes the disagreement.

Most music is song, but there is a clear significant difference between what is considered Pop, Country, R&B, Gospel.

I sometimes think that when somebody raps, we automatically need to either associate or disassociate them with hip hop, mainly because hip hop was the first to use that art form for expression. I believe for Hip hop to grow it needs to recognize that rapping has gone beyond just being hip hop, and has just become a form of expression. When we get to that, we don't have to get caught up in trying to caught up in arguments about Soulja Boy being the greatest rapper or what not and mixing them with what hip hop is.
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Old 09-09-2010, 05:14 PM
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I understand, I just disagree.

And maybe it is the term I used that causes the disagreement.

Most music is song, but there is a clear significant difference between what is considered Pop, Country, R&B, Gospel.

I sometimes think that when somebody raps, we automatically need to either associate or disassociate them with hip hop, mainly because hip hop was the first to use that art form for expression. I believe for Hip hop to grow it needs to recognize that rapping has gone beyond just being hip hop, and has just become a form of expression. When we get to that, we don't have to get caught up in trying to caught up in arguments about Soulja Boy being the greatest rapper or what not and mixing them with what hip hop is.
I think we all realize that. Everyone falls into categories (gangsta rap, mc, etc.) and they are in those categories for a reason. Only a select few can really be called true hip hop artists. How much creativity did it take to create Pretty Boy Swag? If thats being a hip hop ELitist... I'll be that. Lupe Fiasco's "Dumb It Down" said it best...
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Old 09-09-2010, 06:52 PM
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When we get to that, we don't have to get caught up in trying to caught up in arguments about Soulja Boy being the greatest rapper or what not and mixing them with what hip hop is.
There's no argument. Not even Soulja Boy himself would pretend he's more than a decently creative mind and money maker.

I don't see how it's so difficult for people to grasp the hierarchy that some of us make. All genres have distinctions. Country artists have their hierarchy of country music. There are country music artists like Taylor Swift who some would consider the "Soulja Boy of country music." That doesn't stop country music from growing. In fact, having the different types of country music is arguably one sign of growth (or going downhill, depending on who you ask).
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