Fraternity and Sorority Arms, Seals, Flags and other Insignia

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

Here is AOII's. I would tell you what it is, but then I'd have to kill you.

Thanks, ForeverRoses. I knew that AOII does not have a coat of arms (I was thinking of y'all when I said "I am mindful that some organizations do not have coats of arms" in the OP), and knew that you use a Jacqueminot rose as a distinctive symbol. Do you consistently use the emblem that you posted, or might different designs of the Jacqueminot rose be used in different contexts/times?

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Somebody correct me if wrong, but most of the CoAs aren't technically correct right?

For women's groups things are iffy, but MysticCat posted about that. Pi Beta Phi's use of the lozenge is more "correct" in terms of women and crests/COA.

You know who knows a lot about heraldry, created COAs and corrected some? Emily Helen Butterfield, the first woman architect in Michigan, and a founding member of Alpha Gamma Delta. Other than us, groups I can think of she worked with are Tau Kappa Epsilon, Theta Phi Alpha, and Sigma Tau Gamma, but I know there are others I've forgotten.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

You know who knows a lot about heraldry, created COAs and corrected some? Emily Helen Butterfield, the first woman architect in Michigan, and a founding member of Alpha Gamma Delta. Other than us, groups I can think of she worked with are Tau Kappa Epsilon, Theta Phi Alpha, and Sigma Tau Gamma, but I know there are others I've forgotten.

Definitely. Per The Wiki, she designed or helped design/revise the arms for Alpha Kappa Psi, Sigma Delta Rho, Sigma Tau Gamma, Tau Kappa Epsilon, Zeta Tau Alpha, Phi Beta, Theta Upsilon Omega (later merged with Sigma Phi Epsilon) and Theta Kappa Nu (later merged with Lambda Chi Alpha), Lambda Omega (later merged with Delta Zeta).

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Definitely. Per The Wiki, she designed or helped design/revise the arms for Alpha Kappa Psi, Sigma Delta Rho, Sigma Tau Gamma, Tau Kappa Epsilon, Zeta Tau Alpha, Phi Beta, Theta Upsilon Omega (later merged with Sigma Phi Epsilon) and Theta Kappa Nu (later merged with Lambda Chi Alpha), Lambda Omega (later merged with Delta Zeta).

I wasn't sure of the wiki, so I went off my own research/memory. I found it interesting she was working with George Banta and allegedly did "crests for hire" via BPA for new and emerging organizations. I'm proud to say my chapter is one of the last who received a hand done Butterfield charter as we were installed the year of her death. Maybe we need to add that to our emergency exit procedure so someone grabs it off the wall in the event of fire or flood.

[MysticCat]

I love it when I have a reason to bump this thread.

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I wasn't sure of the wiki, so I went off my own research/memory. I found it interesting she was working with George Banta and allegedly did "crests for hire" via BPA for new and emerging organizations.

To my surprise, I have recently read (on the Wiki) that one of the newer fraternities for whom George Banta and Emily Butterfield did the coat of arms was Sinfonia. (Banta also published The Sinfonian in its early years, and was a 1917 honorary initiate of Alpha Chapter.) I haven't seen it anywhere but the Wiki, but knowing how the brother who maintains our Wiki pages operates and how careful he is on accuracy, I can't imagine he would have put it there without evidence.

I knew that a committee had been responsible for the design and had solicited ideas for what should be included, and that at the 1910 convention the design was adopted "in its essentials," but was later put into its final form by the committee. If what's on the Wiki is right, the committee enlisted Banta and Butterfiled to design the final form.

I'm finding this very cool, and it makes me even more glad that the decision was made to revert to the original form of the design. (I wonder if uncovering information that led to going back to the original design is also what led to information regarding Banta and Butterfield's involvement.)

Just as a reminder:

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Thanks, ForeverRoses. I knew that AOII does not have a coat of arms (I was thinking of y'all when I said "I am mindful that some organizations do not have coats of arms" in the OP), and knew that you use a Jacqueminot rose as a distinctive symbol. Do you consistently use the emblem that you posted, or might different designs of the Jacqueminot rose be used in different contexts/times?

Sorry- I haven't been on Greek Chat for a bit. Generally, the rule is that in place of the crest, we use the rose. The one that I posted is the most common one that I have seen, however any representation of a rose can be used. I know a few years back we started using a more "modern" stylized rose,
but the one I posted still pops up fairly regularly. Probably because it is so similar to the colony pin.

Interesting to note- on a few documents, rather than the rose, the AOII monogram is used (where most fraternities & sororities use their crest/bearings). However the monogram can only be used on those specific things. The charter and the member certificate are the two that come to mind.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

If people want I will discuss the meaning behind my CoA

We want!

Originally Posted by rljenk

I've read that Beta Theta Pi uses such a system (http://www.betathetapi.org/about-beta/history/heraldry), but I have not seen any examples of chapter arms. Can anyone share? Do other fraternities use a similar system?

Same here. I've read about it but never actually seen it in practice.

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

Interesting to note- on a few documents, rather than the rose, the AOII monogram is used (where most fraternities & sororities use their crest/bearings). However the monogram can only be used on those specific things. The charter and the member certificate are the two that come to mind.

Thanks for the additional information. I take it that by the monogram, you mean the badge design?

Okay, I'm going to go ahead and discuss someone else's arms and an aspect that I think is really interesting. All public information, I promise.

Originally Posted by angels&angles

Pi Beta Phi:

Based off the COA of one of our founders.

Note has already been made of the reason for the shape of Pi Phi's arms, and as angels&angles says, the eagle on the arms comes from arms associated with the family (Brownlee) of Pi Phi founder Clara Brownlee Hutchinson. (Note: While Americans tend to think of family coats of arms, there really are no such things. Arms belong to individuals, not families. In Britain, for example, they are inherited as personal property, and only one person has the right to them at a time.)

What I find interesting is the sunburst with the Latin LUX ("light") in the center. That is the seal of Monmouth College:



I really like how Pi Phi commemorates the institution where it was founded in this way. The only other GLO that I can think of that does something similar is Theta Nu Xi, which uses Carolina Blue as one of its colors. Are there other examples?

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

The only other GLO that I can think of that does something similar is Theta Nu Xi, which uses Carolina Blue as one of its colors. Are there other examples?

One of our colors is garnet in order to honor our institution of founding at Union College. I also have more information about the multiple coats of arms, straight from national.

The reason Psi U has one for each chapter goes back to our history. In about 1860 we stopped expanding to college campuses via transfers etc (The Iota chapter at Kenyon was the last old chapter started this way) and would only intake strong local organizations/societies/fraternities. The next chapter started from scratch wasn't until 1949 at Northwestern. Many of the older coat of arms for each chapter harken back to their former organization.

It wasn't until the very late 1800's that this system was decided, some chapters had a variant of their own coat of arms before this - nothing so formal but many had very elegant vignettes. Often things are taken from these to the much simpler coat of arms.

I'll talk more about our CoA later lol.

ETA: That was from one of the staff members at national, and is public information even if it isn't on the website.

[AGDLynn]

Interesting to read about the martlets in the Delta Chi magazine. My family is linked to the Leftwiches of England. In describing our Coat of Arms,

Martlets (mythical footless swallows who loved flight so much they never landed, therefore they didn’t need legs) are thought to represent the swift. Since the swift never lands this symbol has been used as a sign of a younger son who has no land of his own, therefore no place to rest. It may signify one who has to subsist by virtue and merit, not inheritance. It is also thought that this is an emblem of one who has been on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land.

Stefan Oliver, An Introduction to Heraldry, Quantum Books, pp. 70.
http://leftwich.org/ArmsMeaning.htm

[PrettyBoy]

[Gusteau]

Originally Posted by AGDLynn

Interesting to read about the martlets in the Delta Chi magazine. My family is linked to the Leftwiches of England. In describing our Coat of Arms,

Martlets (mythical footless swallows who loved flight so much they never landed, therefore they didn’t need legs) are thought to represent the swift. Since the swift never lands this symbol has been used as a sign of a younger son who has no land of his own, therefore no place to rest. It may signify one who has to subsist by virtue and merit, not inheritance. It is also thought that this is an emblem of one who has been on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land.

Stefan Oliver, An Introduction to Heraldry, Quantum Books, pp. 70.
http://leftwich.org/ArmsMeaning.htm

I'm glad you enjoyed the article, and that you posted this information regarding martlets. I've done a ton of research on martlets because of my interest in heraldry and their connection with Delta Chi. This is one of those times I wish I could wax sentimental about their Ritual significance, but I will only say that it is truly beautiful.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

One of our colors is garnet in order to honor our institution of founding at Union College.

I didn't know this. Cool.

PrettyBoy, thanks for posting Kappa Alpha Psi's arms. Is there anything you can tell us about them? (Understood if there's not.)

[mandyk01]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

In Britain, for example, they are inherited as personal property, and only one person has the right to them at a time.

True, Prince William got his when he turned 18.


and Katherine Middleton got her Coats of Arms when she married William.


Article about Kate COA: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/goss...e-william.html

[OleMissGlitter]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

Sorry- I haven't been on Greek Chat for a bit. Generally, the rule is that in place of the crest, we use the rose. The one that I posted is the most common one that I have seen, however any representation of a rose can be used. I know a few years back we started using a more "modern" stylized rose,
but the one I posted still pops up fairly regularly. Probably because it is so similar to the colony pin.

Interesting to note- on a few documents, rather than the rose, the AOII monogram is used (where most fraternities & sororities use their crest/bearings). However the monogram can only be used on those specific things. The charter and the member certificate are the two that come to mind.

We also have on our member certificate the "seal" which is a Sheaf of Wheat with Alpha Omicron Pi on it. I don't have a picture but I'll see if I can take one and post it. Our Foundation has a logo that is similar to a seal, it looks like this:


Then a chapter I work with as a Network Specialist has this lovely piece of history. It is an old seal on a plaque.

This chapter was founded in the 1920s and so therefore the rule about the monogram of our letters only being on certain items probably came after this plaque was made. So this chapter can have this plaque displayed in a display case but obviously it is not a common item. So there are probably a handful of these plaques. I thought it was really neat when I was visiting them so I had to take a picture! It is very heavy!

[MysticCat]

Thanks honey and OMG. All these pictures are awesome!