NYC community board OKs ground zero mosque plans

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

What were we going to do, bomb Waco for good measure or something?

Wait, we had already done that.

Just to play Devil's advocate for PiKa, I would think that the comparisons made is due to how much change Americans went through after 9/11 and how much we all had been inudated with the face of Islam in some ways being associated (incorrectly) with terrorism.

the OK city bombings didn't change much except maybe how much more information that a car rental place needed to have on file, but 9/11 drastically changed so much more.

I think that is the point he was trying to make.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Wait, we had already done that.

Just to play Devil's advocate for PiKa, I would think that the comparisons made is due to how much change Americans went through after 9/11 and how much we all had been inudated with the face of Islam in some ways being associated (incorrectly) with terrorism.

the OK city bombings didn't change much except maybe how much more information that a car rental place needed to have on file, but 9/11 drastically changed so much more.

I think that is the point he was trying to make.

That's why McVeigh and Nichols were upset. Also they were crazy.

But see, it's different because it's foreign based terrorism vs domestic, and we hadn't seen anything like the attacks on September 11th here before, though other countries had.

Thing is, making it a great national wound in our side is the purpose of terroism. Rebuilding, moving on, and not living in fear or attacking each American Muslims is really the best way to "win."

Instead we still have Ground Zero instead of WTC+1 (which is what I would have liked to see, rebuilt albeit with better structural support and add one floor to each tower.), we're making American Muslims the target of our fear and anger, and we have to buy new shampoo wherever we travel because of the stupid TSA regulations.

In short, we didn't have to "change" nearly as much as we did.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

That's why McVeigh and Nichols were upset. Also they were crazy.

But see, it's different because it's foreign based terrorism vs domestic, and we hadn't seen anything like the attacks on September 11th here before, though other countries had.

Thing is, making it a great national wound in our side is the purpose of terroism. Rebuilding, moving on, and not living in fear or attacking each American Muslims is really the best way to "win."

Instead we still have Ground Zero instead of WTC+1 (which is what I would have liked to see, rebuilt albeit with better structural support and add one floor to each tower.), we're making American Muslims the target of our fear and anger, and we have to buy new shampoo wherever we travel because of the stupid TSA regulations.

In short, we didn't have to "change" nearly as much as we did.

Small correction, you forgot about Pearl harbor and how we set up 'camps' for Japanese Americans.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Small correction, you forgot about Pearl harbor and how we set up 'camps' for Japanese Americans.

Are you talking about the racism issue?

That was 70 years ago. I'd hope we'd made a little progress since then.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Are you talking about the racism issue?

That was 70 years ago. I'd hope we'd made a little progress since then.

It's still within memory but the ideology is still the same. Because of what Japan did at Pearl Harbor, made it bad for ALL Japanese people especially any Japanese Americans who were loyal citizen whose only crime was to have Japanese ancestry.

What is going on now isn't that much different.

What a handful did on 9/11 has Americans fearful of anything relating to Islam and Muslim culture.

We just haven't started locking Muslims up in camps yet.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

We just haven't started locking Muslims up in camps yet.

And we won't. But we don't have to to make them "the enemy"

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

And we won't. But we don't have to to make them "the enemy"

We (you and I as well as likeminded people) won't, it's the idiots who are incorrectly protesting the mosque who already have.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Just to play Devil's advocate for PiKa, I would think that the comparisons made is due to how much change Americans went through after 9/11 and how much we all had been inudated with the face of Islam in some ways being associated (incorrectly) with terrorism.

the OK city bombings didn't change much except maybe how much more information that a car rental place needed to have on file, but 9/11 drastically changed so much more.

I think that is the point he was trying to make.