UT (Texas) minority in "white" sorority

[GTAlphaPhi]

Firstly, I'm not denying that being a certain ethnicity or not being a certain ethnicity can cause impediments when one wants to join some chapters of GLO's (this includes NPC, NPHC, etc.) at some campuses at some points in time.

The XYZ chapter at West Cost University may not be welcoming to a certain ethnicity, but the XYZ chapter at East Coast University may be super-welcoming. Also, the trends of said chapter at West Coast and East Coast University may change over time (and obviously, the people doing the actual recruiting will change) and in ten years , you may see the opposite trends at these schools. The point is, times change, people's feelings change, and perhaps most importantly, student body demographics change (especially at public universities).

I just wanted to point out that the recruitment classes at UT Austin and many Texas/SEC schools are so incredibly legacy-heavy (where many girls are double, triple, or even more, and often chapter legacies on top of that). It's just a fact that Indian Americans and other Asian Americans generally don't have deep-rooted GLO traditions in their families (yet!).

All else being equal, a non-legacy being picked over a double legacy is just not realistic. Yes, all familial Greek roots have to start sometime and somewhere, but Texas just isn't a promising place to do that. Can a non-legacy (of any ethnicity) beat out a Texas triple-legacy (who's well-qualified in her own right) for a bid? Sure, it can happen, but said non-legacy had better have Einstein's brains, Jerry Lewis's enthusiasm for philanthropy, Miss Universe's looks, George Clooney's [perceived] personality and charm, and other talents/accomplishments as well (performing arts, athletics, etc.). You can work out the probability of that on your own.

For the record, I'm an Indian-American born and raised in the South.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by GTAlphaPhi

Firstly, I'm not denying that being a certain ethnicity or not being a certain ethnicity can cause impediments when one wants to join some chapters of GLO's (this includes NPC, NPHC, etc.) at some campuses at some points in time.

The XYZ chapter at West Cost University may not be welcoming to a certain ethnicity, but the XYZ chapter at East Coast University may be super-welcoming. Also, the trends of said chapter at West Coast and East Coast University may change over time (and obviously, the people doing the actual recruiting will change) and in ten years , you may see the opposite trends at these schools. The point is, times change, people's feelings change, and perhaps most importantly, student body demographics change (especially at public universities).

I just wanted to point out that the recruitment classes at UT Austin and many Texas/SEC schools are so incredibly legacy-heavy (where many girls are double, triple, or even more, and often chapter legacies on top of that). It's just a fact that Indian Americans and other Asian Americans generally don't have deep-rooted GLO traditions in their families (yet!).

All else being equal, a non-legacy being picked over a double legacy is just not realistic. Yes, all familial Greek roots have to start sometime and somewhere, but Texas just isn't a promising place to do that. Can a non-legacy (of any ethnicity) beat out a Texas triple-legacy (who's well-qualified in her own right) for a bid? Sure, it can happen, but said non-legacy had better have Einstein's brains, Jerry Lewis's enthusiasm for philanthropy, Miss Universe's looks, George Clooney's [perceived] personality and charm, and other talents/accomplishments as well (performing arts, athletics, etc.). You can work out the probability of that on your own.

For the record, I'm an Indian-American born and raised in the South.

Didn't know that! You learn something new about GC regulars everyday.

[OHNOITSJESS]

Originally Posted by GTAlphaPhi

For the record, I'm an Indian-American born and raised in the South.

Oh yaay me too

I would think (b.c of her user name) DeltaIVA was involved in a culturally based GLO that is pretty large at UT. I surely hope she isn't.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by OHNOITSJESS

Oh yaay me too

I would think (b.c of her user name) DeltaIVA was involved in a culturally based GLO that is pretty large at UT. I surely hope she isn't.

Look at the hidden diversity of GC.

If she is, she's an idiot for crying that she was essentially rejected because of her race. We don't welcome rejects.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Look at the hidden diversity of GC.

If she is, she's an idiot for crying that she was essentially rejected because of her race. We don't welcome rejects.

I know that not all schools will have the same experience with race being an issue. I'm glad that that is the case, and wasn't implying otherwise. I just am saying that in my personal experience at my school, that was a problem. I should've been more clear with my wording in my original post. And no, I am not in a culturally based sorority.

Originally Posted by OHNOITSJESS

Oh yaay me too

I would think (b.c of her user name) DeltaIVA was involved in a culturally based GLO that is pretty large at UT. I surely hope she isn't.

Congratulations on pledging Greek! I'm glad some of us are given that opportunity. No, I'm not in a culturally based GLO.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DeltaIVA

Congratulations on pledging Greek! I'm glad some of us are given that opportunity. No, I'm not in a culturally based GLO.

Everyone who attends recruitment is "given that opportunity."

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Everyone who attends recruitment is "given that opportunity."

I was not-I was cut from all of the sororities. I did not drop. That's why I say that I wasn't given that opportunity.

Originally Posted by GTAlphaPhi

Firstly, I'm not denying that being a certain ethnicity or not being a certain ethnicity can cause impediments when one wants to join some chapters of GLO's (this includes NPC, NPHC, etc.) at some campuses at some points in time.

The XYZ chapter at West Cost University may not be welcoming to a certain ethnicity, but the XYZ chapter at East Coast University may be super-welcoming. Also, the trends of said chapter at West Coast and East Coast University may change over time (and obviously, the people doing the actual recruiting will change) and in ten years , you may see the opposite trends at these schools. The point is, times change, people's feelings change, and perhaps most importantly, student body demographics change (especially at public universities).

I just wanted to point out that the recruitment classes at UT Austin and many Texas/SEC schools are so incredibly legacy-heavy (where many girls are double, triple, or even more, and often chapter legacies on top of that). It's just a fact that Indian Americans and other Asian Americans generally don't have deep-rooted GLO traditions in their families (yet!).

All else being equal, a non-legacy being picked over a double legacy is just not realistic. Yes, all familial Greek roots have to start sometime and somewhere, but Texas just isn't a promising place to do that. Can a non-legacy (of any ethnicity) beat out a Texas triple-legacy (who's well-qualified in her own right) for a bid? Sure, it can happen, but said non-legacy had better have Einstein's brains, Jerry Lewis's enthusiasm for philanthropy, Miss Universe's looks, George Clooney's [perceived] personality and charm, and other talents/accomplishments as well (performing arts, athletics, etc.). You can work out the probability of that on your own.

For the record, I'm an Indian-American born and raised in the South.

I completely agree with everything you've just said. In my opinion, if they had kept me around until closer to the end of recruitment, I wouldn't have considered being dropped to be racist. In that case, I would say that of course it would mean more to a girl who's a legacy or has Greek roots to be given a bid than me. I personally feel that my rush experience was racist because I was dropped so early.