Prop 8 is to get a ruling today

[Amicus]

Naraht is spot on. Argentina permits gay marriage; Brazil, Uraguay and Ecuador have either civil unions or domestic partnership legislation; legislation has been introduced in Chile but isn't expected to advance too far at this time.

On the other hand, Colombia and the Central American states are opposed to gay marriage. As Naraht said, gay marriage is permitted in the federal district of Mexico City (similar status to District of Columbia in the U.S), some political support in the urban areas opposition in the countryside.

Again, as Naraht said, the Carribbean states are homophobic Jail time in most places, homophobic violence also. Surprisingly, most of the homophobic states in the Carribbean are former British possessions.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Amicus

Naraht is spot on. Argentina permits gay marriage; Brazil, Uraguay and Ecuador have either civil unions or domestic partnership legislation; legislation has been introduced in Chile but isn't expected to advance too far at this time.

On the other hand, Colombia and the Central American states are opposed to gay marriage. As Naraht said, gay marriage is permitted in the federal district of Mexico City (similar status to District of Columbia in the U.S), some political support in the urban areas opposition in the countryside.

Again, as Naraht said, the Carribbean states are homophobic Jail time in most places, homophobic violence also. Surprisingly, most of the homophobic states in the Carribbean are former British possessions.

Thanks for the clarification...I didn't have time to break it down, but it's surprising that Mexico City and Argentina have legalized gay marriage, two very Catholic areas, before we have.

[Amicus]

Being a Catholic in Latin America is like being a Baptist in the American South ... the range of religiousity runs from in-name-only to seriously devout.

Also in Latin America, one should note that there are increasing numbers of evangelical Protestants and Mormons who would take the conservative side on the issue.

[BluPhire]

**Sideline comment**

Why should we care what other countries are doing?

Also some would not agree that because other countries are doing it, they are ahead of US.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by BluPhire

**Sideline comment**

Why should we care what other countries are doing?

Also some would not agree that because other countries are doing it, they are ahead of US.

You make a good point. I think the solution may be to only allow homosexuals to enter into gay marriage. That way it won't affect heterosexual marriages.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

You make a good point. I think the solution may be to only allow homosexuals to enter into gay marriage. That way it won't affect heterosexual marriages.

*scratches head* Huh?

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

You make a good point. I think the solution may be to only allow homosexuals to enter into gay marriage. That way it won't affect heterosexual marriages.

LOL

That statement made me laugh because I swear I heard it on some comedy show.

But seriously it does seem like that is how the conversation is going.

This country is so ahead of us because they allow gays to do this, or they allow gays to do that.

Unless I live in said country I really don't know whether they are truly ahead of us or not.

Heck the United Kingdom abolished slavery well before the US,. it still didn't make them ahead in race relations and Institutional inequalities.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

You make a good point. I think the solution may be to only allow homosexuals to enter into gay marriage. That way it won't affect heterosexual marriages.

Agreed. You must take a test proving that you are homosexual in order to enter into a gay marriage.
Quiz for Males in order to enter a gay marriage
1) Do you like Barbara Streisand music?
2) Can you correctly identify *why* this examiner is a fashion disaster?

Quiz for Females in order to enter a gay marriage
1) Is your hair completely straight and cut above your ears?
2) Do you manage to keep yourself from instantly swooning over a man with a pint of Aqua Velva poured over his entire beer belly?

Of course, now we have to figure out what questions to put on the test for heterosexuals.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

*scratches head* Huh?

Just being a smartass.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by naraht

Of course, now we have to figure out what questions to put on the test for heterosexuals.

It would have to be a written and oral.

Oral Test for Men

1) What is going on in this scenario.

Female spouse: "Let me tell you what happened with my day, first I get in the car, before I can get the car started good, my co-worker calls me to tell me that Rhonda, you know who Rhonda is...remember that b!tch that works three cubes down from me, man I hate her always walking around like she run something and don't even get me started on what she was wearing yesterday and blah blah...."

LOL I can't even finish the scenario I've already zoned out.

[Amicus]

To quote my 88 year old father on same sex marriage, "gays and lesbians have the right to be as miserable straight people."

BTW, my parents will be married 54 years in October.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by BluPhire

But seriously it does seem like that is how the conversation is going.

This country is so ahead of us because they allow gays to do this, or they allow gays to do that.

Unless I live in said country I really don't know whether they are truly ahead of us or not.

Right, but I think you'll live a happier and fuller life if you take things on face value - read those lines simply as "they're way ahead of us in terms of giving gay people the legal rights afforded to everybody else in terms of marriage" (which is demonstrably and unarguably true) and not as some ringing endorsement of Argentina as a queer Mecca.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Right, but I think you'll live a happier and fuller life if you take things on face value - read those lines simply as "they're way ahead of us in terms of giving gay people the legal rights afforded to everybody else in terms of marriage" (which is demonstrably and unarguably true) and not as some ringing endorsement of Argentina as a queer Mecca.

Untrue and spoken like somebody who's never been on the other side of discrimination.

Face Value gets folks killed all the time because they never dig deeper to find out the truth in life.

That's how Rwanda and now Darfur can get away with genocide.

[pshsx1]

Originally Posted by BluPhire

It would have to be a written and oral.

Oral Test for Men

1) What is going on in this scenario.

Female spouse: "Let me tell you what happened with my day, first I get in the car, before I can get the car started good, my co-worker calls me to tell me that Rhonda, you know who Rhonda is...remember that b!tch that works three cubes down from me, man I hate her always walking around like she run something and don't even get me started on what she was wearing yesterday and blah blah...."

LOL I can't even finish the scenario I've already zoned out.

I was expecting this to go another direction.

Then I realized that this is the test for heterosexuals... OOPS.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by pshsx1

I was expecting this to go another direction.

Then I realized that this is the test for heterosexuals... OOPS.

**Falling out**