Opinions for big SEC school

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You can probably start with how recruitment itself is frivolous and it's "just a sorority." Calling something "just" an anything potentially goes beyond your personal opinion and experience with it. By the way, GLO membership is not just an individual experience.

Once again, and again, and again, and again, there are many posts authored by myself that explain my experiences and why I think my organization and GLO's in general are both important and helfpul to their members. I absolutely have MY OWN, INDIVIDUAL experience with my organization. I share my ritual with thousands of other women, but what I learned from my chapter and the ways in which it effected my life are mine and my own. The same goes for you and all other Greeks. I absolutely do not have to think or feel exactly like every other member of my organization, nor do they have to have the same experiences and feelings as I when it comes to the letters we share.

Originally Posted by Kappamd

Please, it's been pointed out to you already. I couldn't say it any more eloquently than agzg did.

The only thing agzg has repeated that I actually typed is that I said it's "just a sorority". Were agzg to read any of the post other than that line, any of the posts before it, or any of the posts after it, she would understand that she has taken the line out of context and gotten worked up over something that never happened.

So, as you say, "keep it cute or put it on mute".

Originally Posted by Loyally Kappa

Oh. So you went back to check?

I could easily have accused you of doing so by taking your response out of context ... hmmm???

And if you really did go back to check, surely you noticed that I did not respond at all and just blew you off. Please respect ME for that.

I took nothing out of context.

I do not see how your lack of response to that particular post is relevant, as you have brought it up again yourself and made an issue of it.




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Now, everyone can continue this if they'd like, but there is no argument here. I agree that sororities and fraternities are helpful to members and individuals that they help. I agree that they are important to most of the members, and I have never once said anyone else is supposed to share my experiences. This entire fit is in response to one line, taken out of context, and is based on an argument with something that no one in this thread, including myself, actually appears to believe. As I have said so many times now, I very much love my organization, but it is a sorority. I fulfill all my duties as an alum and as a collegian I tried to always at least meet the minimum but reach the maximum when it came to participation. I have never once in my life considered it "silly", and had I done so I surely wouldn't have invested so much time in it, so much money, etc. I do find recruitment "frivolous" and "silly" and do not care if someone does not agree. That's FINE. I do truly believe it to be a silly process. No, I can't think of a better way to do it. But it is akin to speed dating and though sometimes we find amazing matches that way, we are also forced to make hurried judgments based on just the very outer surface of a person. Their resume, their looks, their first impressions.



My sorority does not come before my family, my education, and my career. And that is ok. If someone else puts it anywhere else in that list...first, second, third, fifth...that is ok. It doesn't cheapen or elevate any other member's experience. And again, in terms of "it's just a sorority"...as I've said before...PNM's in no way need to think it is the end of the world if they don't join one for whatever reason, or if they don't join the one they thought they wanted the most. There are, obviously, many organizations outside of the Greek world that can also be fulfilling AND fun.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Once again, and again, and again, and again, there are many posts authored by myself that explain my experiences and why I think my organization and GLO's in general are both important and helfpul to their members. I absolutely have MY OWN, INDIVIDUAL experience with my organization. I share my ritual with thousands of other women, but what I learned from my chapter and the ways in which it effected my life are mine and my own. The same goes for you and all other Greeks. I absolutely do not have to think or feel exactly like every other member of my organization, nor do they have to have the same experiences and feelings as I when it comes to the letters we share.

You said what you really meant the first time. You think recruitment itself is frivolous and silly; and your sorority is "just a sorority." Your longwinded explanations are just "saves" that are making you protest too much.

You're typing to grown women (perhaps older than you?) who are well aware of our priorities in life and what it means to have a sisterhood without losing oneself. That is a given. The fact that you randomly chose to go on these rants is really amusing to say the least.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You said what you really meant the first time. You think recruitment itself is frivolous and silly; and your sorority is "just a sorority." Your longwinded explanations are just "saves" that are making you protest too much.

You're typing to grown women (perhaps older than you?) who are well aware of our priorities in life and what it means to have a sisterhood without losing oneself. That is a given. The fact that you randomly chose to go on these rants is really amusing to say the least.

I did say what I meant the first time. I said:

"I very much love my organization and being in a sorority certainly shaped my college experience. I learned a LOT about how to interact with others, how to balance a million things at once, how to make rules and how to follow them, and made many friends that I will have for years to come. I love that I share a ritual with thousands of other women that I've never even met. That's pretty cool. Oh, and I had a lot of fun, too. But at the end of the day, it's just a sorority."


I also said:
I have always found the process to be frivolous and in general, silly. I genuinely use the word silly. We sit in parties in cute dresses, making small talk with our peers, and then choose our new members based on that small time together combined with the application they sent in. We watch what we say, follow a myriad of complicated and as my mom would say "nit-picky" rules, and yes, even make comments about what girls are wearing. PNM's are just as likely to judge actives on appearance as actives are to do the same to PNM's. Probably more so, since PNM's are new to the whole process and can get overwhelmed trying to remember 15 different sororities. It's easy to break them into categories. Who is hot...who is not.

Who here is going to pretend they or someone in their recruitment group DIDN'T once say "I like them but they're so (insert shallow derogatory comment here)"? Some girls are given bids because they are funny, nice, down to earth women who are kind to others. But sometimes a girl gets dropped because she dated a sister's ex boyfriend. Or because she shows a little too much cleavage. Or because her GPA is a smidge too low. Or because she did that one keg stand the first week of school. Maybe those girls are all extremely amazing people who are great listeners, selfless, and kind. Sometimes a girl gets a bid because she's best friends with an active. Or because she's extremely pretty. Or because her cousin is someone famous. Or because her mom is a very active alum. Maybe all those girls are selfish, rude, and obnoxious. Yep. Silly. And our sisters did the same thing to us the year before. It's a week long audition and both actives and PNMs are putting on a show...that may or may not reflect who they will be after recruitment is over and bids are given out. Expecting thousands of college aged women to make very mature decisions at all turns isn't realistic"

I have no idea who I am "typing to" and don't really care. It is ok for everyone here to have had different experiences with their respective organizations, put their family first, their sorority first, their career first, whatever. And having different opinions certainly does not cheapen anyone else's experience.

So, again, there is no disagreement here. There are different opinions. There is nothing wrong with my having my own opinion and there is nothing wrong with everyone else having their own.

ETA: Let's put it this way...these are things I believe/feel. If you don't agree with them, great! If you do, great! It in no way effects your own experience with your organization, your life, your feelings, etc. No one in this thread has put down GL, sororities, fraternities, etc. I get to have individual opinions and so does everyone else. That's the beauty of being human. We are ALL unique snowflakes.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I did say what I meant the first time. I said:

Yes and you've been repeating yourself. You're looooongwinded. That's why you trip up over yourself and your love for your sorority has been outshined by the fact that it's "just a sorority."

/End Thread Hijack

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Yes and you've been repeating yourself. You're looooongwinded. That's why you trip up over yourself and your love for your sorority has been outshined by the fact that it's "just a sorority."

/End Thread Hijack

That is your opinion, and as the saying goes, you're entitled to it. I get to have mine, too. Cheers for individuality.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

That is your opinion, and as the saying goes, you're entitled to it. I get to have mine, too. Cheers for individuality.

That's as much of a newsflash as announcing that your sorority doesn't come before your family and career.