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08-04-2010, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rolltide1
Brothers of new members will be allowed, according to the Panhellenic President's letter of 8-2-10 to all who registered for recruitment:
"With these concerns in mind, the Alabama Panhellenic Association recently brought this issue up for discussion, and the sororities unanimously voted that the inside of the sorority houses on Bid Day would be limited to sorority members, alumnae, new members and their families only. Fraternity members and other unaffiliated students and guests, while welcome on sorority row, will not be allowed access to the inside of the houses. By taking this step, we are trying to ensure that the focus of our Bid Day festivities is on welcoming the new members and their families to the University and to our organizations.
Each house will have its own uniformed security helping us make sure that uninvited guests do not make their way inside the houses."
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We all received that letter, and while it does say "new members and their families only," I'm gonna restate my warning about brothers. We were told in person yesterday that it was dads only, no brothers. Some houses may be allowing brothers, but I know that my house won't, since it's harder to verify that the boy you're claiming is your brother actually *is* your brother. There's not as much of a problem with 40+ year old men pretending to be family as there is with 20ish year old men.
I was under the impression that men were allowed in all the houses last year, but after jennyj87's post, I'm starting to wonder if some houses don't allow guys in whatsoever. So if you're planning on coming down to bid day, please keep all this information in mind. If you wanna chance it, more power to you, but don't be too surprised if your brother/son isn't allowed in the house.
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08-04-2010, 09:34 PM
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There's not as much of a problem with 40+ year old men pretending to be family as there is with 20ish year old men.
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Unless they're creepy.
Jenny - I think (just pulling this out of my butt) that stipulation might mean member-only bid day activities like retreats? I mean, the moms that are going to be there aren't all members.
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08-07-2010, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bamababe
We all received that letter, and while it does say "new members and their families only," I'm gonna restate my warning about brothers. We were told in person yesterday that it was dads only, no brothers. Some houses may be allowing brothers, but I know that my house won't, since it's harder to verify that the boy you're claiming is your brother actually *is* your brother. There's not as much of a problem with 40+ year old men pretending to be family as there is with 20ish year old men.
I was under the impression that men were allowed in all the houses last year, but after jennyj87's post, I'm starting to wonder if some houses don't allow guys in whatsoever. So if you're planning on coming down to bid day, please keep all this information in mind. If you wanna chance it, more power to you, but don't be too surprised if your brother/son isn't allowed in the house.
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Hey Bamababe, I have to ask, is there absolutely no other alternative for keeping undesirables out of the house on Bid Day than simply keeping out all young males (no?)? Could you not perhaps check photo-ID's of guys trying to get in as brothers with the PNM's names on the bid list? Or maybe have the PNM come over and vouch for her brother perhaps? Sorry, but I just absolutely abhor the idea of breaking apart, even for a few hours of one day, a nice young man who would not cause any trouble from a sister and parents he's real close to and from a group that's real used to doing these kinds of things "together as family."
Best of luck to all in recruitment!
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08-08-2010, 02:22 AM
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magnoliacurious, I understand and agree with your point, but I think it all comes down to numbers. Last year it was hard enough to get into the house, get lunch, and actually be able to find a place to sit, so by blocking out males (whether they be fraternity boys, family members, or random guys) it actually helps to address the overcrowding problem on bid day.
Honestly, if I had a say, I wouldn't have put this rule into effect, since many of my fraternity friends have sent me disappointed messages, saying how much they were looking forward to coming to my house on bid day and scoping out the new girls while enjoying the sorority's food. I like the huge community atmosphere, of all the actives, pledges, alums, and non affiliated friends coming together to celebrate the end of recruitment.
Basically, I have no say in the matter. I am but a lowly sophomore passing the message along. Like I said before, if you would like to chance it, then more power to you. I don't know every individual house's decision regarding PNM/pledge brothers, but I do know that there are some houses who are not allowing brothers in.
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08-08-2010, 09:32 AM
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...many of my fraternity friends have sent me disappointed messages, saying how much they were looking forward to coming to my house on bid day and scoping out the new girls while enjoying the sorority's food.
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Lane swerve/
My first thought when I read this rule was that they didn't want boys and young men coming for the sole purpose of "scoping out" the young ladies and eating the house's food. Most of the heterosexual young males that I know are thinking about women and food if they were to attend Bid Day. A good way to keep the crowding down and maintain a level of comfort is to remove those who may have a hungry voyeur purpose. Plus, women like to be able to do things without always being "scoped out."
The unfortunate thing about rules sometimes is that they will be applied to those who had the best of intentions.
/lane swerve
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08-08-2010, 11:36 AM
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Lane swerve/
My first thought when I read this rule was that they didn't want boys and young men coming for the sole purpose of "scoping out" the young ladies and eating the house's food. Most of the heterosexual young males that I know are thinking about women and food if they were to attend Bid Day. A good way to keep the crowding down and maintain a level of comfort is to remove those who may have a hungry voyeur purpose. Plus, women like to be able to do things without always being "scoped out."
The unfortunate thing about rules sometimes is that they will be applied to those who had the best of intentions.
/lane swerve
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Yeah, I kind of agree. Even if the younger guys there are the biological brothers of PNMs...I would wager some of them throw a "congrats Sis" over their shoulder and then go back to drooling over the 149 members of the chapter they're not related to.
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08-08-2010, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bamababe
magnoliacurious, I understand and agree with your point, but I think it all comes down to numbers. Last year it was hard enough to get into the house, get lunch, and actually be able to find a place to sit, so by blocking out males (whether they be fraternity boys, family members, or random guys) it actually helps to address the overcrowding problem on bid day.
Honestly, if I had a say, I wouldn't have put this rule into effect, since many of my fraternity friends have sent me disappointed messages, saying how much they were looking forward to coming to my house on bid day and scoping out the new girls while enjoying the sorority's food. I like the huge community atmosphere, of all the actives, pledges, alums, and non affiliated friends coming together to celebrate the end of recruitment.
Basically, I have no say in the matter. I am but a lowly sophomore passing the message along. Like I said before, if you would like to chance it, then more power to you. I don't know every individual house's decision regarding PNM/pledge brothers, but I do know that there are some houses who are not allowing brothers in.
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is there going to be a problem if i send her aunt and her daughter to represent her family since her immediate family can't be there?
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08-08-2010, 02:21 PM
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is there going to be a problem if i send her aunt and her daughter to represent her family since her immediate family can't be there?
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I'm not from there, but I wouldnt think so from a numbers standpoint. I would check with the Greek Life office to make sure.
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