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					Originally Posted by DaemonSeid  What I posted has nothing to do about Hispanics being in favor or not of illegal immigration. You know like I do, that the whole bill itself in Arizona did nothing more than targeted and profiled ALL Hispanics, as well as inspire xenophobia, so yes, a party that is trying to gain their support designing a bill to single out that same group of people is going to cause loss of support. |  a speculative argument at best.  one that shows your own personal bias.  it's not the laws fault that 5 out of every 6 illegal immigrants are hispanic.  
 
just because we have a colonialistic history, doesn't mean we need to rescind the laws of today.
		 
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					Originally Posted by starang21  a speculative argument at best.  one that shows your own personal bias.  it's not the laws fault that 5 out of every 6 illegal immigrants are hispanic.  
 just because we have a colonialistic history, doesn't mean we need to rescind the laws of today.
 |  With all that's been going on in Arizona it's hard to say that this law has the best of intentions in mind.
 
it's not about rescinding the law it's about not passing laws that are BAD laws which target a specific people i.e. HISPANICS.
		 
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					Originally Posted by DaemonSeid  With all that's been going on in Arizona it's hard to say that this law has the best of intentions in mind.
 it's not about rescinding the law it's about not passing laws that are BAD laws which target a specific people i.e. HISPANICS.
 |  again, speculation.  you're assuming you know the intent of the law makers.  just because it impacts one group of people disproportionately, doesn't mean that was the intent of the law.  
 
it's arizona.  a state with one of the highest hispanic populations in the country.  a state that borders a hispanic country.  of course, it will impact the hispanic community more.  that doesn't mean it was intended to impact the hispanic community more.  
 
that last statement was regarding changing the current immigration system.
		 
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					Originally Posted by starang21  it's arizona.  a state with one of the highest hispanic populations in the country.  a state that borders a hispanic country.
 |  And how many Hispanics from Arizona are representing them in the Senate?
 
Hmmmmmmmmmm....funny, I don't hear Washington state having issues with illegal Canadians.
		 
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					Originally Posted by DaemonSeid  And how many Hispanics from Arizona are representing them in the Senate?
 Hmmmmmmmmmm....funny, I don't hear Washington state having issues with illegal Canadians.
 |  both of those points are irrelevant.  83 percent of illegal aliens are hispanic.  the hispanic population has the highest percentage of illegal aliens.  most people who are suspected of being illegal will be hispanic.  
 
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					Originally Posted by starang21  both of those points are irrelevant.  83 percent of illegal aliens are hispanic.  the hispanic population has the highest percentage of illegal aliens.  most people who are suspected of being illegal will be hispanic.  
 duh.
 |  Cool, let's make a law targeting Hispanics!
 
Oh yeah..Arizona is doing that.
 
Don't get me wrong...I am all for legislation that would make it difficult for people that are considered illegal to be in this country, however, as it stands, Arizona's laws and everything else that has gone down there in the past year is just wrong on so many levels and I think now we are finding out exactly what kind of people we are working with that runs their government.
		 
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					Originally Posted by DaemonSeid  Cool, let's make a law targeting Hispanics!
 Oh yeah..Arizona is doing that.
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