The NPHC 21st Century and Beyond.

[MasTNX]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

No. In this day and age, people have access to college more than ever before. It's enough that some honorary members (for the orgs that still allow honoraries) don't have college degrees.

I also pray that we never allow collegiates from online schools like University of Phoenix even if they had some classes in a classroom; and never allow alumnae/alumni/graduate members with an online bachelors degree from online schools like University of Phoenix. That's not to be confused with colleges and universities that have online courses, hybrid course, and online degree components.

We aren't limiting ourselves by not considering those without 4 year degrees and we aren't starving for members.

Wow, that's a pretty strong statement. I can see not chartering chapters at non-traditional universities, although there are some NPHC orgs that have done so, but not accepting bachelor's degrees from U of Phoenix. That's strict. Would you like to see this as official, on the website posted for everyone to see, or more unofficial - like an applicant can try, but when his/her transcript is reviewed, rejection is imminent?

I could be wrong, but I believe I saw that some NPHC orgs have chapters at DeVry. What's your opinion on this? In my experience, the non-traditional university and community college have a lot in common.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by MasTNX

Wow, that's a pretty strong statement. I can see not chartering chapters at non-traditional universities, although there are some NPHC orgs that have done so, but not accepting bachelor's degrees from U of Phoenix. That's strict. Would you like to see this as official, on the website posted for everyone to see, or more unofficial - like an applicant can try, but when his/her transcript is reviewed, rejection is imminent?

I could be wrong, but I believe I saw that some NPHC orgs have chapters at DeVry. What's your opinion on this? In my experience, the non-traditional university and community college have a lot in common.

I have to agree. I didn't peep that before. What's up with that DrPhil? I don't even think we can do anything about that anyway nor should we want to. A degree is a degree if it's measured by the same standards. In fact, I have found that some online degree programs (I'm talking about the programs, not the schools) have accreditation that some "on the ground" school programs do not. If the on-line school/program is accredited by one of the regional accreditation bodies in the U.S. (as U. of Phoenix and many other online schools and programs are), the degree is no different from that issued by an "on the ground" school no matter how one personally feels about it. I would think that our ogs definitely have some members (inducted via alumnae chapters) with bachelor's degrees they achieved entirely online. Also, remember that many "on the ground" schools are now offering full degree programs online and this is only going to become more popular in the future. I have taken classes online and I found them to be, in some ways, more involved than "on the ground" classes, since I had to log in and interact with my classmates more than twice a week and write constantly because this is the major form of communication of course. Sounds like some still don't respect the online degree but this is changing. When you don't have to drive back and forth to class, break your neck to arrive on time from work, can work more easily around your schedule, and can spend that extra time with your kids and taking care of a household, the online degree option becomes more appealing although not a cake walk by any means. In fact, if you don't like to write a lot, the online degree will probably not be a great option for you. You will definitely improve your writing and comprehension skills since how well you communicate with your professor and classmates is a great contributor to your success.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I have to agree. I didn't peep that before. What's up with that DrPhil? I don't even think we can do anything about that anyway nor should we want to. A degree is a degree if it's measured by the same standards. In fact, I have found that some online degree programs (I'm talking about the programs, not the schools) have accreditation that some "on the ground" school programs do not. If the on-line school/program is accredited by one of the regional accreditation bodies in the U.S. (as U. of Phoenix and many other online schools and programs are), the degree is no different from that issued by an "on the ground" school no matter how one personally feels about it. I would think that our ogs definitely have some members (inducted via alumnae chapters) with bachelor's degrees they achieved entirely online. Also, remember that many "on the ground" schools are now offering full degree programs online and this is only going to become more popular in the future. I have taken classes online and I found them to be, in some ways, more involved than "on the ground" classes, since I had to log in and interact with my classmates more than twice a week and write constantly because this is the major form of communication of course. Sounds like some still don't respect the online degree but this is changing. When you don't have to drive back and forth to class, break your neck to arrive on time from work, can work more easily around your schedule, and can spend that extra time with your kids and taking care of a household, the online degree option becomes more appealing although not a cake walk by any means. In fact, if you don't like to write a lot, the online degree will probably not be a great option for you. You will definitely improve your writing and comprehension skills since how well you communicate with your professor and classmates is a great contributor to your success.

Also just to add my two cents, University of Phoenix does have a campus in some cities.

Also since a day has passed it seems my theory that I would hear more from the sororities of the NPHC than fraternities has been unfortunately proven correctly.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MasTNX

Wow, that's a pretty strong statement. That's strict.

GOOD.

Originally Posted by MasTNX

I could be wrong, but I believe I saw that some NPHC orgs have chapters at DeVry.

I hope you're wrong.

I know all about Univ of Phoenix (and Strayer, et al) and its campuses. My original comments stand 100% and with zero exceptions.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

GOOD.



I hope you're wrong.

I know all about Univ of Phoenix (and Strayer, et al) and its campuses. My original comments stand 100% and with zero exceptions.

These two are in a class all by themselves so I don't think it's fair to judge other online schools/programs against them.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

These two are in a class all by themselves so I don't think it's fair to judge other online schools/programs against them.

Here is how these schools typically rank for general bachelor degree (or equivalent) programs:

1. Strayer
2. Univ of Pheonix
3. ECPI and Devry
4. The rest of them

But, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about. LOL.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by MasTNX

I could be wrong, but I believe I saw that some NPHC orgs have chapters at DeVry.

That seems unlikely. DeVry doesn't really have the structure to support a Greek system. I suppose it's possible that undergraduates at DeVry could be involved in some sort of city-wide situation.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

That seems unlikely. DeVry doesn't really have the structure to support a Greek system. I suppose it's possible that undergraduates at DeVry could be involved in some sort of city-wide situation.

Yeah, these schools aren't structured for NPHC (or other GLOs) and neither are community colleges and technical schools. I imagine that poster was just trying to be the great equalizer.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Yeah, these schools aren't structured for NPHC (or other GLOs) and neither are community colleges and technical schools.

Truth. When I was the national expansion director for my organization, we certainly had interested women who attended these schools, but it was simply not possible.