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Old 07-28-2010, 12:23 PM
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Sorry about that. I thought that I was giving you a compliment.
The context wasn't complimentary.

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I guess, to a point. I just don't think it is always so cut and dry based strictly on race / ethnicity as you are trying to make it. There may be some tendencies to trends, but I also think there are a lot of exceptions to the rule.
Strictly? The part of my post that you quoted stated "country of origin, race and ethnicity, AND socioeconomic status."

The very nature of trends is that there are exceptions. The trends are more important to me for the purpose of this discussion because the illegal immigration debate confuses trends with exceptions, as evidenced by the following:

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Have you not experienced the arrogance of illegal immigrants in this country towards you, as a Black American? I mean, some of these people come over here, they don't speak the language, don't want to assimilate and socialize with you, and yet they want to look down their nose at you like being a Black American is a second class citizen when they have no rights in this country.

LOL. I hope you know that you have proven my points. So, you just don't LIKE them or something? You've had enough of being treated like a negroid by white folks (in general) and will be darned if those newbies come here illegally and treat you like a negroid? Do you really give a darn about how they perceive you as a Black American? Really? Illegal immigrants aren't the only people here who don't speak the language and don't want to assimilate or socialize with you. Let the record show that assimilating and socializing with Black people has always been the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to living in the America. Surely your experience as a Black American has given you thicker skin than to care about such things.

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Old 07-28-2010, 12:54 PM
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The context wasn't complimentary.



Strictly? The part of my post that you quoted stated "country of origin, race and ethnicity, AND socioeconomic status."

The very nature of trends is that there are exceptions. The trends are more important to me for the purpose of this discussion because the illegal immigration debate confuses trends with exceptions, as evidenced by the following:
Right, they are important to you. But, to the people of Arizona, they are not. They are the one who are going to vote and support this law.

And, quite frankly, people don't want to discuss. They want action. They want something done, however they perceive it.


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LOL. I hope you know that you have proven my points. So, you just don't LIKE them or something?
Oh on the contrary. I've dated them, "or something".

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You've had enough of being treated like a negroid by white folks (in general) and will be darned if those newbies come here illegally and treat you like a negroid? Do you really give a darn about how they perceive you as a Black American? Really?
Yes, I do, because their perception of Black Americans usually come from stereotypes that they have seen on TV - rap music, sagging pants, "baby mama drama". There is more to Black culture and history in this country than what they get. So yeah, it does bother me.

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Illegal immigrants aren't the only people here who don't speak the language and don't want to assimilate or socialize with you.
Yes, I agree.

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Let the record show that assimilating and socializing with Black people has always been the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to living in the America.
The Kardashians don't seem to think so!

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Surely your experience as a Black American has given you thicker skin than to care about such things.
Oh yes, I do have thick skin. And I do care about "such things". I care about my community and who is coming into it and what they are doing. I care about my state and my country because my ancestors have had an (unsung) influence in shaping both. I care very much. I know who I am and where I come from. I care.
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