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Old 07-14-2010, 04:33 PM
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Because influenza is a virus, and HIV is a retrovirus. All I now is that they are different, though i can't tell you why.
Well, yes. That wasn't the point though. He means that we don't need to know the origin of HIV to be able to create a vaccine. HIV is obviously much more difficult to develop a vaccine for because of how fast it mutates and I'm sure a bunch of other biomedical reasons I don't understand either, but we don't need to know the origins.

But WaxOff apparently thought it was possible for HIV to spontaneously occur between non-infected drug users or gay men and thus I wouldn't even have gone as far as to question his opinion on this either.
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:57 PM
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Well, yes. That wasn't the point though. He means that we don't need to know the origin of HIV to be able to create a vaccine. HIV is obviously much more difficult to develop a vaccine for because of how fast it mutates and I'm sure a bunch of other biomedical reasons I don't understand either, but we don't need to know the origins.

But WaxOff apparently thought it was possible for HIV to spontaneously occur between non-infected drug users or gay men and thus I wouldn't even have gone as far as to question his opinion on this either.
I read it as saying why we can't treat HIV even though we can make vaccines for influenza without knowing it's origins.
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:08 PM
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I read it as saying why we can't treat HIV even though we can make vaccines for influenza without knowing it's origins.
Nah I think he was just questioning WaxOff's claim.

"We can make vaccines for the flu without knowing where it came from, we don't need to know the origins of HIV to be able to vaccinate for it because we can already isolate it."
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:25 PM
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Nah I think he was just questioning WaxOff's claim.

"We can make vaccines for the flu without knowing where it came from, we don't need to know the origins of HIV to be able to vaccinate for it because we can already isolate it."
Ah ok that makes sense. Rhetorical questions and me do not go together well. Also the methods of transferring HIV have been known for a while. And there are at least theories of how it was started if not any proof.
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:16 PM
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Are there any viruses that can be cured?
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:46 PM
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Are there any viruses that can be cured?
It depends what you mean by the word "cured" and which virus you are talking about.

However, this is a vaccine, so it's proactive, rather than a treatment.

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I'm assuming from the article that its a Phase III Clinical Trial, so (if it passes Phase III), we could be seeing the vaccine go up for approval in a few years.
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:46 PM
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I wasn't referring to what was previously being talked about in this thread.

When I say cured, I mean the cure eliminates the virus from the body.

And any virus, that's what I was asking. Thanks.
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