Need rush events to increase numbers!

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by cooper252525

important to attract athletic and fratty type recruits

Opposing things.

Athletic =/= Fratty.

And I'm guessing Baylor Lambda Chi. Don't got a tier system there, so who knows. I know SAE had been doing alright there for awhile.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Opposing things.

Athletic =/= Fratty.

Really?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Opposing things.

Athletic =/= Fratty.

And I'm guessing Baylor Lambda Chi. Don't got a tier system there, so who knows. I know SAE had been doing alright there for awhile.

Try again...he gave you a HUGE clue.

[ScarletBlueGold]

Try this.

I have been doing it for summer recruitment for weeks now, and it has been working great.

Contact some of the Orientation Leaders you know, and ask them for recommendations. Find one of the recommendations they gave you on Facebook and send a message that sounds something like this:

Hey. My name is John Smith. I'm a brother of the Alpha Beta Gamma Fraternity. We've been looking for excellent students for our Fall 2010 New Member Class. Sarah, Michael, and David from the Orientation Team gave you a really good recommendation, and told me that you would be a great fit for our chapter.

I would really like the opportunity to talk with you. Are you free for lunch any time in the next few weeks? (my treat)

I've done it with ten different people and have not gotten turned down a single time.

I think it is successful for four reasons.

1. Respect - It is a very powerful tool. Telling someone that you have singled them out for something because you think they're special is a very fast way into their heart. On top of that, by telling them that you think they're an amazing person, and that's why you think they'd be good for your Fraternity helps them understand how important your organization is to you.

2. Free Food - They're college-aged men. Some have done far worse than sit in on an awkward conversation for a free meal.

3. Openness and Directness - One of my biggest pet-peeves in the Greek Community is how some people seem to think you can get someone to join by "tricking" them into hanging out at a Fraternity event. I've seen some chapters go so far as to leave their Fraternity name off of an event flyer hoping it will get more people to come.

No. Stop. Never do that. People enjoy it when you're honest with them. If you REALLY want to avoid being treated like a "Frat Guy" stop acting like one. Don't invite them to get trashed, don't try to trick them into coming to your harmless info session, and don't play songs with subliminal messages during Freshman Move-in. Those parlor tricks don't work. Be open about what you want and assertive about why you want it.

4. They are Freshmen - These guys have just had their entire world uplifted. Gay or straight, popular or unpopular, jock or geek. They're lonely. They're worried about making friends. They want to try new things. Capitalize on the fact that they are college Freshmen.

That's my two-cents.

[33girl]

This is a good idea, as long as it doesn't get the Orientation Leaders' asses in a sling. At some schools, they have very strict protocol they have to follow as far as advocating what groups to join, and this could be construed as such.

Easier and safer to have a brother or two (or 5) that are orientation leaders themselves, and therefore a face the guys will know going through rush.

[ScarletBlueGold]

I served a term as an orientation leader. Although it is pretty much universally accepted that it is uncool to recruit for ANY specific organization when you are at an orientation or some other mandatory Freshman event; there is a lot of grey area when it comes to referrals.

Keep in mind that what I am suggesting is very different from telling some of the Freshman to join your Fraternity. You simply ask them who THEY think represent your organizations values well, and you actively make the attempt to get in touch with the person.

When in doubt ask the staff person over the Orientation Team. The worst he can say is "no".

33girl makes a good point about having your brothers serve as Orientation Team Leaders too. It works WONDERS come recruitment time.

[cooper252525]

First off, lambdi chi doesnt exist at Baylor or if they do, then obviously who cares, and SAE is too big here
Second, athletic usually does mean fratty
Third, touche on calling me southern bc i want fratty guys
Fourth, I like the lunch idea from recommendations, we were thinking about taking suggestions at sorority meetings and then using that to break the ice with rushes

Thanks guys, any other ideas?

[ScarletBlueGold]

Originally Posted by cooper252525

First off, lambdi chi doesnt exist at Baylor or if they do, then obviously who cares, and SAE is too big here
Second, athletic usually does mean fratty
Third, touche on calling me southern bc i want fratty guys
Fourth, I like the lunch idea from recommendations, we were thinking about taking suggestions at sorority meetings and then using that to break the ice with rushes

Thanks guys, any other ideas?

Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but what exactly do you mean by Fratty? What does that term mean to you?

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Try again...he gave you a HUGE clue.

I know. He said "Around the World" party.

While that may be a super common party, I'm familiar with three or four LXA chapters who have it. But I figured it out, I had to look a bit harder. Good catch.

Originally Posted by cooper252525

Second, athletic usually does mean fratty

use to be athletic = fratty.

But not if you keep your physique up in college because it means you aren't drinking enough beer and are probably the type who drinks low-cal vodka or something/ not eating enough.

I had to look up tierz on Old Row to get a few confirmations. All I knew about Baylor was SAE and KOT

I will have to say, handing out PFG's for Bid Day? I don't know about that. Sounds like trying too hard. No worries though.

[als463]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Opposing things.

Athletic =/= Fratty.

And I'm guessing Baylor Lambda Chi. Don't got a tier system there, so who knows. I know SAE had been doing alright there for awhile.

Nope. It def. isn't Lambda Chi or SAE. I could tell exactly what fraternity, by something he said and everyone is saying Baylor.

[TGTKPinkWhalepq]

Originally Posted by als463

Nope. It def. isn't Lambda Chi or SAE. I could tell exactly what fraternity, by something he said and everyone is saying Baylor.

I thought it might be this chapter at my school, but I definitely do not attend Baylor!

it still sounded like them though....they didn't change their image much-they're still at the bottom in terms of retention, GPA, service hours per man. They throw those "awesome" parties, but that's how everyone seems to judge the quality of men's greek organizations at my school.

I don't get why they keep doing the same thing when it's not benefitting them, but then again, I suppose staying afloat for the past decade and remaining the oldest active chapter on campus is a nice thing eh?