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Old 06-24-2010, 02:50 PM
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Yep, I hear ya.

But, amnesty will make it more difficult (not impossible, more difficult) for shady employers (shady capitalists) to violate labor laws and cut costs. When people are no longer here illegally and are no longer running from the law, they are more empowered to fight for their rights across the board.
Didn't we try the amnesty thing before?

Until we're actually ready to enforce the laws on the books and properly guard the border, we shouldn't do anything.

If we can do those things, I think some sort of quick path to citizenship, or at least a low cost work permit program would be a better option. Until then, we all subsidize illegal immigration anyway through their drawing on our social services, criminal and civil justice systems, driving on our roads, etc.

Priority one, however, must be building a system where never again will there be an entire class of people who has to live in the shadows.
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:55 PM
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Didn't we try the amnesty thing before?
I don't remember. Anything's possible.

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Until we're actually ready to enforce the laws on the books and properly guard the border, we shouldn't do anything.

If we can do those things, I think some sort of quick path to citizenship, or at least a low cost work permit program would be a better option. Until then, we all subsidize illegal immigration anyway through their drawing on our social services, criminal and civil justice systems, driving on our roads, etc.

Priority one, however, must be building a system where never again will there be an entire class of people who has to live in the shadows.
I hear ya. As with all other social, political and economic topics, this is tough and there are no quick and fool proof solutions that will be fully supported and fully effective.
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