Don't Judge a Book by its Cover

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

And the post you just quoted gave an example of perceived "explanations" and "excuses."

Thanks for answering. Education and outreach are important.

I don't know why you're stuck on whose business it is (LOL). The individual-level aggregates to society-level so it all eventually becomes society's business if it culminates to social problems that are correlated with other social problems.

Because the article, and your original post, weren't dealing with societal level outreach and education. It was talking about determining whether a reason for weight gain is acceptable or not and talking about body shame. It's neither society nor an individual's position to shame someone for his/her body and the idea that there are unacceptable reasons for being overweight feeds that. Even if Joe Scmoe says he's "just big boned." I'm going to guess odds are he's aware of other reasons for his weight and feels compelled to make a socially acceptable "excuse." That's the effects of body shaming.

I'm sorry I'm not taking the conversation in the direction you wanted it to go, but I am only responding to what you put out there.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

...the idea that there are unacceptable reasons for being overweight feeds that.

That depends on the tone and the context of the message. The article did seem to want to distinguish between the "good obese people" and the "bad obese people." But, that's based on my perception which may be different than the intent of the article.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I'm going to guess odds are he's aware of other reasons for his weight....

Maybe and maybe not. Such uncertainty and subpar information and resources are why there is research and outreach on obesity and the Black community.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

...I am only responding to what you put out there.

And I am only responding based on what I want to type about. Cheers. If this thread was just for the two of us, I would've private messaged it to you.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

That depends on the tone and the context of the message. The article did seem to want to distinguish between the "good obese people" and the "bad obese people." But, that's based on my perception which may be different than the intent of the article.

I think it's pretty obvious, personally. There's a heavy focus on fault and shame and that's pretty standard.

Maybe and maybe not. Such uncertainty and subpar information and resources are why there is research and outreach on obesity and the Black community.

It's possible but it's a fairly consistent pattern in any community to put off "blame" because it's considered shameful. I'm not familiar enough with the issues specific to the black community to comment.

And I am only responding based on what I want to type about. Cheers. If this thread was just for the two of us, I would've private messaged it to you.

Actually, I'm aware of this. And I believe that your selective response to discussions like this, as well as throwing out "LOL" and "Yes, very good." in an otherwise polite discussion comes off as condescending and counterproductive.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I'm not familiar enough with the issues specific to the black community to comment.

Okay and that goes back to "maybe and maybe not," which likely isn't exclusive to the Black community.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Actually, I'm aware of this. And I believe that your selective response to discussions like this, as well as throwing out "LOL" and "Yes, very good." in an otherwise polite discussion comes off as condescending and counterproductive.

Again, that is your interpretation and assumption of what "yes, very good" and "LOL" were intended to convey. But, since you insist on chasing your own tale () regardless of my intention and where I want this thread to go, I shall say "mission accomplished" to the bolded.