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Old 06-22-2010, 11:01 AM
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I wonder if these people know about E-Verify?
Buggy system and people complain because people get 90 days to straighten things out if they're on their wrongly. Also I don't think it solves people using someone else's SSN?

Better than nothing though.
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Old 06-22-2010, 11:08 AM
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Buggy system and people complain because people get 90 days to straighten things out if they're on their wrongly. Also I don't think it solves people using someone else's SSN?

Better than nothing though.
It tracks it though. If it was mandatory nationwide we would be able to see that the same SSN is concurrently used in two or three different jobs in two or three different states.
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Old 06-22-2010, 11:15 AM
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It tracks it though. If it was mandatory nationwide we would be able to see that the same SSN is concurrently used in two or three different jobs in two or three different states.
I think it's hard to make it mandatory yet, i don't know about the legal issues involved but i think it has like a .5% error rate and out of 330 million SSNs that's a lot.

I also don't know how illegal SSNs work, whether it's usually a stolen ID, a sold one, if it's duplicated across the country or they're careful not to 'resell' so to speak. Then at some point you'd have to cross the system with all the states to track disability, TANF, Medicaid, etc. And besides the logistical issues of every state running their own system, you start getting the Big Brother people really freaked out.

It's something to work on, obviously.
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Old 06-22-2010, 11:30 AM
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I think it's hard to make it mandatory yet, i don't know about the legal issues involved but i think it has like a .5% error rate and out of 330 million SSNs that's a lot.

I also don't know how illegal SSNs work, whether it's usually a stolen ID, a sold one, if it's duplicated across the country or they're careful not to 'resell' so to speak. Then at some point you'd have to cross the system with all the states to track disability, TANF, Medicaid, etc. And besides the logistical issues of every state running their own system, you start getting the Big Brother people really freaked out.

It's something to work on, obviously.
It's run by DHS so every employer in the country would be going through them. Fraud is an issue but could be stopped by using biometrics, but then you'd have people really freaking out
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Old 06-22-2010, 11:34 AM
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It's run by DHS so every employer in the country would be going through them. Fraud is an issue but could be stopped by using biometrics, but then you'd have people really freaking out
No I mean you'd have to cross check the SSNs with the state level TANF/Medicaid system. I'm not sure if SSI/SSDI is managed at the federal or state level but odds are even on the federal level it's on another system. Because if you know the SSNs will cross check with other jobs, people who are not working would be an ideal target.

And yes, next thing you know we all have the "Mark of the Beast" in our hands or foreheads or something.

/needs a credit card implanted in an arm or something because I lose mine all the time.
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Old 06-22-2010, 11:39 AM
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And yes, next thing you know we all have the "Mark of the Beast" in our hands or foreheads or something.
Like a micro-chip? My cats already set for the Armageddon then. I see fingerprints being associated with SSN in the future though, as well as cops having little iPad type things that can read/check prints on the fly. I don't see it as Big Bro, just our lives being more digitalized.

Hell, one can make the arguement that SSN are the "Mark of the Beast".
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Old 06-22-2010, 11:52 AM
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Like a micro-chip? My cats already set for the Armageddon then. I see fingerprints being associated with SSN in the future though, as well as cops having little iPad type things that can read/check prints on the fly. I don't see it as Big Bro, just our lives being more digitalized.

Hell, one can make the arguement that SSN are the "Mark of the Beast".
I'm sure someone already does, the general claim though is that it'll be in your forehead or arm and you won't be able to buy things without it. *Presumes a more literal reading of Revelation*
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