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Old 06-16-2010, 01:43 PM
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I watched the video and saw nothing wrong. He should have broken out his tazer and pepper spray and arrested both of those women for felony assaulting an officer. They should do hard time for behaving like that. They are not victims.
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Old 06-16-2010, 02:07 PM
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Old 06-16-2010, 02:28 PM
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There is a middle ground here. Nobody can put themselves in the officers' mind and feel his level of "threat" in the immediacy of that situation. That being said, officers train rigorously in assessing/handling threat. He didn't immediately draw his weapon on the girl. Why? He'd made an initial calculation that such a step wasn't necessary.

From that, you'd think there was a successful control/take down maneuver that likely would have subdued a 17-year-old girl, something short of a closed fist to the face.

I study martial arts (taekwondo). Training involves using self-defense techniques sufficient to the threat faced. An attacking stranger on a dark street at midnight is likely to get a far more forceful technique response than, say, a friend's uncle who has had too much to drink at the family picnic, where a more controlling technique (i.e. a joint lock) might suffice to stop the behavior.

Again, videotaped replay makes it easy to second-guess the cops' action in the heat of the situation, but it seems like something short of what happened, perhaps should have occured.

Sad situation.
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:38 PM
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I watched the video and saw nothing wrong. He should have broken out his tazer and pepper spray and arrested both of those women for felony assaulting an officer. They should do hard time for behaving like that. They are not victims.
I actually to a degree agree with you...what he did was escalate the situation.

Yeah the goal for the officer is to get home alive but I don't agree with not only the punch but he punched a woman.

Once she fought back she was already in the wrong.
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:41 PM
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I actually to a degree agree with you...what he did was escalate the situation.

Yeah the goal for the officer is to get home alive but I don't agree with not only the punch but he punched a woman.

Once she fought back she was already in the wrong.
If this was a man and not a woman, would public reaction be different?

Why is it okay for a woman to actively assist someone in resisting arrest and arguably not so for a man? Why shouldn't they face the same consequences?
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:45 PM
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If this was a man and not a woman, would public reaction be different?

Why is it okay for a woman to actively assist someone in resisting arrest and arguably not so for a man? Why shouldn't they face the same consequences?
I'd probably object to the punch still. It's less about the use of force and more about how the force was used.

But I'd lie if I didn't think there was usually something kind of uncomfortable about a man punching a woman in any context. Too much history.
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