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Originally Posted by PiKA2001
Not going the absurd at all, just trying to see where you're coming from. I've heard many people seriously propose open border immigration policy, specifically for Mexico as well as completely sealing off the country and ending immigration completely.
But back to the original discussion do you support this law on the basis that this law would NOT promote illegal immigration, instead, it would most likely deter illegal immigration into the U.S?
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You phrased it in the extreme, that tends to be an attempt to reduce the argument to the absurd.
I'm not sure why you think I would support this law in any way, but you phrased the question in that way.
I do not support this law because it is unconstitutional. I don't support the removal of Jus Soli from our constitution nor the alteration of it under those rules. I do not think it would actually deter illegal immigration either. This is a distraction from productive immigration reform.
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Originally Posted by PiKA2001
I really doubt what you say is true, about people just walking in and receiving Visa's from their consulate "automatically" ( Why are you hanging out in Consulates anyway?). It really doesn't work like that and If what your saying IS true than there is some shadiness going on and you should report it to the State Dept IG.
Also, applying for a immigrant or non-immigrant Visa is like applying to a college or rushing a GLO, just because you fill out the paper work doesn't mean you are going to fit the requirements to get in. It's not written anywhere that the U.S. has to take in everyone that applies.
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There's a difference between believing that an individual's story is true and believing that it correlates to the general population. Calling someone a liar is not a productive way to have a conversation.
Applying for a Visa, in some of these countries is more like trying to buy a kidney. There's corruption, bribes, and graft. One person's story was that for just a 30 day visa they were expected to pay 130 dollars a day just to stand in line.
There's a lot wrong with our immigration policy and only if you're from Europe are you unlikely to have serious problems (because it's a much shorter line and your 7% isn't automatically used up). Hell I have a friend marrying an Indian who is hoping that he can become naturalized on his current visa just so they don't have to go through the hell that is ICE verifying your marriage is legit.
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