College conference shake-up!

[OHNOITSJESS]

i think the announcement about Nebraska was just made.

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Originally Posted by irishpipes

As a graduate of a Big XII school, I don't like this at all. It's fine for Colorado to go to the Pac-10 (good riddance) but for the southern midwest to go there just doesn't work for me.

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Originally Posted by AXOmom

Right now Nebraska is apparently leaving the Big XII to join the Big X (announcement is supposed to be Friday). Rumor had it that Missouri was also leaving the Big XII for the Big X but apparently they either changed their mind, the Big XII wouldn't take them, or that is still in the works - it's not clear.

For awhile, the Pac 10 had talked about adding Colorado and Utah. When it looked like Nebraska and Missouri were leaving for the Big XII, all of the sudden the other Big XII schools got nervous because no one wants to be left without a conference. Texas, which until this point no one thought would consider leaving the Big XII, was suddenly a possibility and the Pac 10 has jumped on that. The Texas legislature, however, is making noises like it won't let Texas go to the Pac 10 without taking Texas Tech, Texas A & M, and Baylor with it. The last few days, the Pac 10 was really hoping to get the four Texas schools (because of Texas - they don't really care that much about the other 3 truthfully), Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State (I think). That was the Pac-16 talk.

Colorado, seeing the way the wind was blowing decided to get out while the getting was good because no one in the Big XII cares what they do at this point. The Pac 10 jumped on that and would still like to add the Texas schools (probably). I don't know what happens to the Oklahoma schools in that case, but I can't imagine they'll have any trouble getting picked up. The Kansas schools and Missouri could have a problem on their hands.

Sorry - KSU Violet. That was probably way more information than you needed, but I like following college sports, so I've been reading lots lately on this topic.

I heard that Utah is a back up choice if we don't get all the Texas schools. This is the first time I heard anything about Baylor coming over.

[AXOmom]

Yeah, Utah has been discussed off and on for awhile (the feeling being they would be a good match with Colorado and the Salt Lake City market wasn't bad), but then that died down. Now its resurfacing a bit because of Colorado coming on, not being sure about what direction the Texas/Oklahoma schools will go, and wanting to keep an even number whatever we do. I've also heard Kansas and even Missouri discussed (but imo the Missouri one is pretty out there as far as possibilities go).

Baylor came up with the original discussions about Texas again, not because we wanted them (nothing to do with Baylor as a school - just a "fit" issue), but for the reasons I think Txpacer outlined quite well - we thought we might have to take them in order to get Texas. Here's another one of the links on it:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...=rivals-378917. This was a couple of weeks back, and I think at this point that its a dead issue.

[pshsx1]

Originally Posted by AGDee

I just want to know.. these schools that may be going to the SEC eventually.. is their recruitment as competitive as recruitment in the SEC or will this mess with our general "Wow, SEC recruitment is brutal!" outlook?

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lol I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of this! :P

[OHNOITSJESS]

I know at UT recruitemnt is super competitive. I'm pretty sure its fairly competitive @ A&M and Tech too. Not sure about the Oklahoma schools.

[full*hearts]

Originally Posted by AXOmom

Oh, I didn't think you were being rude Jess. I just wanted to clarify what I meant. No worries.

Ummm...full*hearts - what were the Sun Devils last year in the Pac-10? Sorry, that's mean, I know, but as the Pac-10 fan of another Pac-10 school...I was obligated. On a serious note - I wish they would leave it alone too. I liked the natural divisions and rivalries with the Pac-10 and that we played everyone in the conference every year - true round robin, but this is a money issue, and it is major money, soo....

Aww.. you're sweet. LOL. I don't know, I thought we had a pretty good football season, we did better than that other az school to the south of us. Also, we are currently ranked #1 in NCAA Baseball. Now, I have a strong passion for football, and baseball, so I considered us definitely not the door mat of the PAC-10. But of course we weren't on the top.

[ISUKappa]

The scuttlebutt that I've been reading is the four (possibly five depending on what TxA&M decides to do - Pac10 or SEC if they offer) BigXII South teams minus Baylor will state their intent to move to the Pac10 on Tuesday. I can't really see a conservative school like Baylor being offered if Stanford, Cal, etc... have always had issues with adding BYU. If A&M goes west with the rest of the south, then the Pac10 has their 16 teams and they're done.

The most encouraging talk for me personally is that the four schools left from the Big XII North band together and join the Big East, bringing their football schools to 12. Basketball schools would be at 20, which is getting large, but doable if you split into two 10-team conferences. There's always the chance that the conference gets raided by the Big 10 or ACC at some point in the future, but adding TV markets and schools with tradition such as KU (basketball) and those that have had recent success in FB (KSU, Mizzou and even ISU to a point) would definitely strengthen the conference and help ease the pain if some schools did decide to pursue other affiliations down the road.

[AXOmom]

Full*hearts - I'm not a Wildcats fan, but they finished 2nd in the Pac 10 this year in football and the Sun Devils finished 9th. They also won the Territorial Cup.

But otherwise, you're completely right - your baseball team is flat out great and the basketball team is very good (much better than ours - we're the doormats in that department).

On a side note, my daughter was a cheerleader at a Pac-10 school (not the one she currently attends), her freshman year, and the one away game she got to attend was at ASU. I got a call from her that Saturday afternoon that went like this, "Mom, it is SO gorgeous here, and it's 80 degrees! There are palm trees! Can I transfer here next year?" Yeah, sure honey, that out of state tuition won't be a problem. .

[AOEforme]

There was an article in the paper yesterday outlining the possible East and West Conferences the Big 10 would have if they had 12 teams. I'm not a fan. I like the rivalries between our school and Michigan and Ohio State. I'd miss that.

(I never, ever thought I'd say I'd miss Michigan.)

However, it would be nice to not have our season end a week early.

[AznSAE]

the remaining big 12 teams are staying put for now. are they going to add two more teams? if so, who?

[Elephant Walk]

I hope (though I've heard absolutely no reports in this regard) that they decide to add TCU and SMU/Houston to the South and move Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the North.

This super conference stuff might be over with for now. The Pac-10 will still need to add one more team so they can have a conference championship.

[AznSAE]

TCU would be a good choice.

it's a longshot, but arkansas and notre dame to the big 12 would make it interesting.

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by AznSAE

the remaining big 12 teams are staying put for now. are they going to add two more teams? if so, who?

Not at this time. They may down the road, but for now they're going to keep it at 10. They will play 9 conference games in FB and 18 round robin games in MBB. This makes ISU's schedule freaking brutal, but I'm just happy the Big XII stuck (mostly) together - for exposure, revenue and competition reasons.

[PeppyGPhiB]

I'm not excited about the prospects of Utah joining the Pac-10. But I'm not sure who I'd rather have.

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by AXOmom

Full*hearts - I'm not a Wildcats fan, but they finished 2nd in the Pac 10 this year in football and the Sun Devils finished 9th. They also won the Territorial Cup.

But otherwise, you're completely right - your baseball team is flat out great and the basketball team is very good (much better than ours - we're the doormats in that department).

On a side note, my daughter was a cheerleader at a Pac-10 school (not the one she currently attends), her freshman year, and the one away game she got to attend was at ASU. I got a call from her that Saturday afternoon that went like this, "Mom, it is SO gorgeous here, and it's 80 degrees! There are palm trees! Can I transfer here next year?" Yeah, sure honey, that out of state tuition won't be a problem. .

That's because my beloved Sun Devils have kind of, hmm, sucked the last couple of years in football. U of A won the territorial cup! That sucks!!!!!

LOL to your daughter. That made me smile.

So now the Pac-10 has become the Pac-11 (that just sounds odd) and it could become the Pac-16 (which sounds odder).

So now my question to the sports officianados (totally spelled that word wrong), how would this change the football season? I looked online and ASU already has their football season planned. With the adding of Colorado to the Pac-10, if ASU isn't scheduled to play them, don't they have to be scheduled to play them? Then who (well what team) would they get "rid of" to compensate? And what if it becomes the Pac-16 are teams expected to rearrange their seasons to compensate for the new schools in the Pac-10? Or would this be something that would be started next season?

What about the bowl games? Wouldn't the dissolution of a conference change the bowl games? Right now the Pac-10 (if I remember correctly) does the Holiday Bowl, a Pac-10 team can make the Insight Bowl. I don't think they can make Fiesta Bowl anymore (they could at one point). Those are the only ones I can remember (probably because two of the three are done in AZ).