Glee

[LeslieAGD]

For a season finale, I thought this episode was really lacking! The only great part was Sue (with the judges and at the end with Will).

I don't really know why they had Rachel's bio-mom adopt the baby. It seems kind of mean that she gets to have this new beginning after she kicked up dirt in Rachel's life and then basically said, "I made you find me, now go away."

[ColdInCanada11]

thetygerlily- I'm with you on the 80s music for the most part. Jessie's girl was solid, but one person only needs so much Journey.
Still, New Directions was still amazing to watch! I've seen We Will Rock You and everything (good show), but enough 70s/80s rock!!! I thought that Vocal Adrenaline should have contrasted more with ND.
As a finale, kind of lacking. Ditto for Sectionals.

Sue's not a robot!

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by ColdInCanada11

thetygerlily- I'm with you on the 80s music for the most part. Jessie's girl was solid, but one person only needs so much Journey.
Still, New Directions was still amazing to watch! I've seen We Will Rock You and everything (good show), but enough 70s/80s rock!!! I thought that Vocal Adrenaline should have contrasted more with ND.
As a finale, kind of lacking. Ditto for Sectionals.

Sue's not a robot!

Disclaimer* - I don't know the specific laws, but have an idea why the "students" are performing older music.

I know that some more modern performers' songs have allowed GLEE! to use their music (and I am amazed at their musical arrangements with Rap and R&B, because I haven't seen that done before), but when it comes to real-life high schools, they are usually working off songbooks/collections of songs with rights that are more accessible. After a certain time, songs fall under a "fair use" rule that allows the music, lyrics, etc. to be used. In this case, the performances are not-for-profit, but for exhibition.

The fact that the cast is re-recording these songs is a entirely other issue, but there are laws allowing a cover song to be produced/sold/performed, even if they are relatively new.

The Journey songs that New Directions performed were from the early 80s. Vocal Adrenaline did a Queen song from the mid-70s. This makes sense to me. For example, when I was in HS (mid-late 80s), our choir did a 7-8-minute medley of the Beach Boys. Granted, the BB had one or two "later" hits, but the stuff we performed in choir was mostly from the 60s and 70s (outside of widely-used/classical pieces like "El Shaddai", "Canon in D", etc). I remember that we had done one "current" piece (one-time performance) and I remember going through a lot to be able to do it. We performed "When the Children Cry," backing up one of the guys in our class who had a rock band. Back then, it was pretty edgy for a Catholic high school.

I have to say that although our choir didn't enter competitions, GLEE brings back many memories for the 4 years I performed in high school Choir. We were lucky enough to take it as an elective, so I got to sing 3-4 days a week. Amazing way to keep your voice healthy if you are also doing musical theater!!


*If anyone here understands music copyright law, feel free to provide accurate and specific info.

[ColdInCanada11]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

Disclaimer* - I don't know the specific laws, but have an idea why the "students" are performing older music.

I know that some more modern performers' songs have allowed GLEE! to use their music (and I am amazed at their musical arrangements with Rap and R&B, because I haven't seen that done before), but when it comes to real-life high schools, they are usually working off songbooks/collections of songs with rights that are more accessible. After a certain time, songs fall under a "fair use" rule that allows the music, lyrics, etc. to be used. In this case, the performances are not-for-profit, but for exhibition.

The fact that the cast is re-recording these songs is a entirely other issue, but there are laws allowing a cover song to be produced/sold/performed, even if they are relatively new.

The Journey songs that New Directions performed were from the early 80s. Vocal Adrenaline did a Queen song from the mid-70s. This makes sense to me. For example, when I was in HS (mid-late 80s), our choir did a 7-8-minute medley of the Beach Boys. Granted, the BB had one or two "later" hits, but the stuff we performed in choir was mostly from the 60s and 70s (outside of widely-used/classical pieces like "El Shaddai", "Canon in D", etc). I remember that we had done one "current" piece (one-time performance) and I remember going through a lot to be able to do it. We performed "When the Children Cry," backing up one of the guys in our class who had a rock band. Back then, it was pretty edgy for a Catholic high school.

I have to say that although our choir didn't enter competitions, GLEE brings back many memories for the 4 years I performed in high school Choir. We were lucky enough to take it as an elective, so I got to sing 3-4 days a week. Amazing way to keep your voice healthy if you are also doing musical theater!!


*If anyone here understands music copyright law, feel free to provide accurate and specific info.

If it were a real school, I'd totally be on board with it, but this is a network, so I guess I just expected more? Haha, I'm ok with the show being a little less realistic if it means a better performance.

Plus, I think with Don't Stop, it's played EVERYWHERE. Wedding receptions, wedding socials, graduations, parties, sporting events, etc. It's quickly losing any pump up factor for me.

[ree-Xi]

http://balkin.blogspot.com/2010/06/c...e-of-glee.html

The fictional high school chorus at the center of Fox’s Glee has a huge problem — nearly a million dollars in potential legal liability. For a show that regularly tackles thorny issues like teen pregnancy and alcohol abuse, it’s surprising that a million dollars worth of lawbreaking would go unmentioned. But it does, and week after week, those zany Glee kids rack up the potential to pay higher and higher fines...

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...You might be tempted to assume that this tension isn’t a big deal because copyright holders won’t go after creative kids or amateurs. But they do: In the 1990s, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP) asked members of the American Camping Association, including Girl Scout troops,to pay royalties for singing copyrighted songs at camp. In 2004, the Beatles’ copyright holders tried to prevent the release of The Grey Album – a mash-up of Jay-Z’s Black Album and the Beatles’ White Album — and only gave up after massive civil disobedience resulted in the album’s widespread distribution. Copyright holders even routinely demand that YouTube remove videos of kids dancing to popular music. While few copyright cases go to trial, copyright holders like the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) don’t hesitate to seek stratospheric damage awards when they do, as in the Jammie Thomas-Rasset filesharing case.

(sorry about the links...I didn't know how to batch un-link them)