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Old 05-24-2010, 05:57 PM
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This is something that's communicated to PNMs/aspirants. Anything beyond that would be stepping into "spoonfeeding" territory (IMHO).



To each his/her own. If you want to go beyond that, that's your call. But it isn't necessarily "wrong" to expect prospective members to form conclusions on their own.
I agree, I just didn't see how anything here was related to us begging for members.
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:02 PM
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I agree, I just didn't see how anything here was related to us begging for members.
"We aren't hurting for members" =/= "Begging for members" (in my eyes)

I think the point is that none of our GLOs will cease to exist if a handful of PNMs/aspirants don't form their own conclusions. There are hundreds (if not thousands) of others that are more than willing to come to us.
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:07 PM
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"We aren't hurting for members" =/= "Begging for members" (in my eyes)

I think the point is that none of our GLOs will cease to exist if a handful of PNMs/aspirants don't form their own conclusions. There are hundreds (if not thousands) of others that are more than willing to come to us.
Yeah I just don't get where that relates per se. Again perhaps it's the NPHC/NPC difference. Not responding to this thread, or anyone else's comments, wouldn't hurt our numbers, but why not respond with accurate information? I don't get that attitude of not providing simple, accurate answers when someone asks in good faith. Even if nothing else, it's just good PR in this situation and correcting one person's view can spread to her friends or classmates.

*shrug*

ETA: I do understand why questions regarding membership in D9 or other orgs are redirected elsewhere, I think that's a different issue.
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:22 PM
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Yeah I just don't get where that relates per se. Again perhaps it's the NPHC/NPC difference. Not responding to this thread, or anyone else's comments, wouldn't hurt our numbers, but why not respond with accurate information? I don't get that attitude of not providing simple, accurate answers when someone asks in good faith. Even if nothing else, it's just good PR in this situation and correcting one person's view can spread to her friends or classmates.

*shrug*

ETA: I do understand why questions regarding membership in D9 or other orgs are redirected elsewhere, I think that's a different issue.
(Only dragging this on because I don't want to continue working lol)

It's because most of the questions have already been answered by our I/HQs. If an interest doesn't take the time to try to find information on his/her own, it makes it seem as if the person will be a member that requires spoonfeeding at every turn.

Again, to each his/her own. I'd prefer to represent my organization by fulfilling my duties as a member rather than schooling interests on things that they can easily find the answers to.
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:32 PM
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(Only dragging this on because I don't want to continue working lol)

It's because most of the questions have already been answered by our I/HQs. If an interest doesn't take the time to try to find information on his/her own, it makes it seem as if the person will be a member that requires spoonfeeding at every turn.

Again, to each his/her own. I'd prefer to represent my organization by fulfilling my duties as a member rather than schooling interests on things that they can easily find the answers to.
(Yeah I'm dodging the kitchen.) I can understand why someone comes to ask 'people' rather than read the websites. Particularly since hazing happens despite what our websites say, so asking "what really happens" is pretty legit, IMO, and not spoonfeeding info about our individual orgs.

I figure if I can spend an evening snarking someone I can spare some time to answer a question. Obviously no one should be expected to, because we come here for our own reasons.
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:40 PM
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(Yeah I'm dodging the kitchen.) I can understand why someone comes to ask 'people' rather than read the websites. Particularly since hazing happens despite what our websites say, so asking "what really happens" is pretty legit, IMO, and not spoonfeeding info about our individual orgs.

I figure if I can spend an evening snarking someone I can spare some time to answer a question. Obviously no one should be expected to, because we come here for our own reasons.
Those people should be "real" people as opposed to usernames, but I get what you're saying.
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:56 PM
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Those people should be "real" people as opposed to usernames, but I get what you're saying.
Ideally yes, but since many PNMs hit recruitment in their first weeks of school they may not have the time to make connections and, for example, my mom's experience at XYZ at Large State U are not necessarily relevant to my experience in ABC at Small private U and so on.

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